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05 March 2014, 19:15
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Cork
Boat name: Cúr na dDonnta
Make: Excalibur + Zapcat
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Bavaria Yacht gets it wrong and so do the "rescuers"
This is a pretty scary video for several reasons:
http://vimeo.com/87355387
I'd start with not least the skipper trying to enter the harbour under these conditions, his actions after the inevitable happened (although he may have had injured on board and prioritized them) and then the powerboats' clueless repeated approaches downstream to casualties in the water.
Lots to learn about how not to do it!
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05 March 2014, 20:01
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Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Boat name: Exodus
Make: Tohatsu
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude 150
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Compelling viewing, just hope if I ever have to do a real MOB I'd make a better job of it.
First job this spring when the rib goes into the water will be drills, especially MOBs
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05 March 2014, 20:05
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
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Have a look at bigger engine required thread
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05 March 2014, 20:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Make: RIBTEC 655
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yam 150
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Dangerous place, the sea, clearly not ideal conditions yet two sitting up the front and another on the coach roof, none with safety lines!!! Mad.
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05 March 2014, 21:02
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Country: UK - England
Length: no boat
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Wow! Some very big wave sets.
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05 March 2014, 21:33
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: Archangel
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: ETec 225
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I think some of those in the water may have been injured; they didn't seem to want to swim for the yacht or the shore. Those waves were big and the knock down looked very frightening. It just goes to show how stable yachts are though; that one's point of vanishing stability must have been well over 90 degrees and was probably something like 120.
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05 March 2014, 22:05
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Member
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Town: Southampton
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WOW!! Great video!!
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05 March 2014, 22:14
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Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
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seconded.. bloody slow and daft recovery tho...
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05 March 2014, 22:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusher
WOW!! Great video!!
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Yes, but that is all that is great
Anyone know any more about it, where, when?
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05 March 2014, 23:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Not sure
Make: ABC/Priddy
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 500 FPT
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Should have had the headsail up and all crew inside the cockpit or down below. The helmsman was not in control when it mattered. Alan P
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06 March 2014, 00:07
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GJ0KYZ
I think some of those in the water may have been injured; they didn't seem to want to swim for the yacht or the shore.
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Swimming after being unexpectedly dumped in the water with foul weather kit and (I assume) life jackets on is very difficult. I've always favoured "don't try and swim to the boat or the shore".
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Originally Posted by matt h
seconded.. bloody slow and daft recovery tho...
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I dare say it could have been better - It did show how much use a floating throw line would have been. But they did avoid ending up with the powerboat upside down so that's better than some. And at the end of the day they recovered everyone in some very tricky waves. It is easy to be smart after the event - I hope (i) I never have to deal with an incident like that; (ii) if I do there isn't anyone filming it for the internet rescue enthusiasts to critique!
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06 March 2014, 01:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt h
seconded.. bloody slow and daft recovery tho...
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Was a slow recovery. But in defense of the hard boat, would you want to risk getting swamped in some of those waves and adding to the situation or risk hitting the casualties in the water? I'd certainly be cautious.
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06 March 2014, 07:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
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I've been in the Middle East and those waves can be the norm in the rainy season, we had to get into a dock with a dogleg at the entrance, you have to commit to getting through the gap and Alan's right, Stowe everything including people, look for the gap and go for it flat out
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06 March 2014, 18:17
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Country: USA
Town: CA
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Where was that footage from?
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06 March 2014, 18:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth(ish)
Boat name: Wings
Make: Ribeye
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Engine: Yamaha F115 AETL
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Yeah, we don't know the circumstances as to why the skipper decided to/had to come in in those waves but nonetheless he should have had everyone below or in the cockpit in harnesses +LJs. The boat would still have gone over but everyone would still have been in/with it.
As for the rescuers I think they were torn between saving the swimmers, keeping their boat upright and not hitting the swimmers. I think it's hard to judge at the time, but viewing that footage I'd have tried to keep my bow into the waves and "ferry glide" (old kayak term) side to side for the swimmers. But he at least did something when it could have been so easy to say "stuff that, it's rough out there!"
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06 March 2014, 18:41
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Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtalljv
Where was that footage from?
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Northern coast of Spain
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06 March 2014, 19:16
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Town: Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
Swimming after being unexpectedly dumped in the water with foul weather kit and (I assume) life jackets on is very difficult.
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I know exactly how that feels as I practice MOB from my jet ski regularly and at speeds up to 20kts; it's very disorientating indeed. The people I ski with never practice MOB despite my suggesting that they do if only to appreciate how far they will need to swim when their skis finally come to a halt. I suspect the people in the video were dazed and confused after such a violent knock down.
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06 March 2014, 20:06
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Town: Helsinki
Boat name: SR 5.4
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Its little difficult to evaluate the distances and conditions due to heavy zoom on the video. Conditions tends to look nicer on video than in reality.
The rescue on spot lasted from approx 8:00 to 12:25. Agree its not fast and some of the moves looks little strange. But on the other hand, it looks like they had a plan and somehow a relatively calm performance considering the circumstances and potential danger by big waves.
Guess they decided to perform the rescue one by one to minimize the risk to to catch a huge wave in position where they are most vulnerable. So after all, in my books the hardboat skipper covered reasonable well the screw up made by the Bavaria skipper.
Nice end anyway.
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06 March 2014, 20:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: liverpool
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It may not have been a text book rescue but he got everyone out which is surely the important thing
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06 March 2014, 21:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth(ish)
Boat name: Wings
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F115 AETL
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 615
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Quote:
Originally Posted by simon23
It may not have been a text book rescue but he got everyone out which is surely the important thing
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I fully agree!
As I said, he did something as opposed to doing nothing. Sometimes doing "something", no matter how little, can be the difference between life and death.
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