Baystar Hydraulic helm seal

limeydal · 24 September 2011, 06:17

Read a few past threads on servicing the seals on the Baystar helms.
Seems the kits ranged from $50 to $100 here in the states.

Then came across this vendor who seems to have the right O ring for quite a deal
Teleflex HP6032 SeaStar Helm Service Kit*-*Teleflex*HP6032 - SeaStar Steering Parts - Teleflex SeaStar Steering Kit - Hydraulic Steering Kits - Hydraulic Steering - Steering and Control Systems - Engine/Mechanical - Boatersland Marine

Anyone seen/used this and had good results ?

My helm is gradually leaking more and hate to shell out big bucks if this kit will do it

cheers Dal

willk · 24 September 2011, 10:04

I think jyasaki has done this ...?

jyasaki · 24 September 2011, 16:55

The Sea Star/Baystar seals are nothing special: just normal X-section hydraulic seals. You can get them at any shop that does maintenance on hydraulic equipment. The helm "kit" includes all the parts needed to completely rebuild the helm (a seal, gaskets and O-rings, as I recall.)

That said, also from memory, the helm seal itself was something like $6 at West Marine, so you're not looking at a ton of money (the cylinder kit is a different story.)

As far as replacement goes, it's pretty straightforward: Remove the steering wheel, remove the plastic helm cover, remove the plate covering the steering shaft where it enters the helm(referred to as a retainer), pull out the old seal, install the new one, and put everything back together.

Baystar helm parts manual is here:
http://www.teleflexmarine.com/wp-con...05/767328A.pdf

Luck;

jky

limeydal · 25 September 2011, 06:03

JKY
thanks, never even thought about West Marine.
Will give it a go this weekend!
Just came back from fishing and noticed the leak is getting worse.
cheers Dal

jyasaki · 25 September 2011, 06:07

Let me know if you have problems finding the part. I seem to recall buying a couple of them, but I don't recall where I put them offhand. If you can't find one, I'll take a look.

jky

Jon Tallis · 26 September 2011, 21:52

Try boatstoreusa on ebay. I got a kit from them for around $6US. 15 minute job to change all seals - no leaks since

limeydal · 29 September 2011, 03:14

Great

Got service kit HP6032 and info says will not work with helm HH4016 , which is what I have

Back to the web !

jyasaki · 29 September 2011, 16:55

Part number for the kit will be HS5147, listed as being for the Baystar 1.6 Helm Pump and Bay Star Sport Helm Pump.

Hmmm. It looks like your helm uses an O-ring and a separate shaft seal, rather than a quad seal as used on the Seastar pumps:
Teleflex, HS5147 , Seal Kit, BayStar Helm

Here's a listing of the helm pump repair kits and the pumps they go to:
TELEFLEX HELM SEAL REPAIR KITS

The only thing I could find on the Teleflex website about this kit is here:
Service Parts – BayStar Helm Pump | Teleflex Marine and it has very little information.

A web search for the part number (HS5147) turns up a lot of hits, so it doesn't appear to be in short supply.

Might be worth taking it apart and seeing if replacing the O-ring itself fixes your leak. Your local hardware store should be able to match it up. OTOH, the kit is around $10, so you may want to just go for it.

Luck;

jky

limeydal · 30 September 2011, 02:30

JKY
thanks for the info and picked one up today

(Drove 80 miles to get one though.)
10 minute job in the end and just left wondering why I put it off for so long

And yes the teleflex site seemed short on info.
Gave the part number ,but no online sale or further links.
Several online boating sites had them,but the postage was more than the part!
Also needed it fixed for a shoot this weekend and regular UPS said 5-7 days.
( 2day air was about $50 ) !! and could take 4-5 days with handling

So just topped up and bled the system / wiped it all down and will check for leaks later on.
Hopefully none !
Thanks for all the help
cheers Dal

jyasaki · 30 September 2011, 06:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by limeydal

(Drove 80 miles to get one though.)

Hey; You're in California now; 80 miles is nothing...

Quote:

Thanks for all the help
cheers Dal

Anytime.

Good luck on your shoot (and post some pics.)

jky

SeaStar Steering · 06 October 2011, 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by limeydal

Read a few past threads on servicing the seals on the Baystar helms.
Seems the kits ranged from $50 to $100 here in the states.

Then came across this vendor who seems to have the right O ring for quite a deal
Teleflex HP6032 SeaStar Helm Service Kit*-*Teleflex*HP6032 - SeaStar Steering Parts - Teleflex SeaStar Steering Kit - Hydraulic Steering Kits - Hydraulic Steering - Steering and Control Systems - Engine/Mechanical - Boatersland Marine

Anyone seen/used this and had good results ?

My helm is gradually leaking more and hate to shell out big bucks if this kit will do it

cheers Dal

hey there, it appears from an earlier post that you have the HH4016 helm pump. If this is the case, your seal kit is part # HS5147. This helm (as well as HH4015 tilt helm) only have the shaft seal included in it. A leak from anywhere else will require a new helm be purchased.

NOTE: check the wheel shaft. If there is any damage to it that will not allow a new seal to seal, then I recommend purchasing a new helm vs. a seal kit

thanks
Marc