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[Chris Caton]

Originally Posted by chris.moody

Why not use three strand rope and attach the painter with a spliced loop around the u bolt, then trim the painter so it cannot reach the prop, and then back splice the loose end as well.

nice idea Chris, but have you forgot who asked the original question, I think he's best sticking to his granny knots meself

[jambo]

Are you doubting his ability Chris??


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[kerny]

Originally Posted by Chris Caton

nice idea Chris, but have you forgot who asked the original question, I think he's best sticking to his granny knots meself

Originally Posted by jambo

Are you doubting his ability Chris??


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I've seen chris's knots and that's Enuff

[Mollers]

Bowline, clove and halfhitch cover everything. The rest are just showing off.

[diver 1]

I agree with Chris ref splicing, much neater and stronger and long term. Any muppet can learn a good splice after 5mins on you tube these days

[kerny]

Looks like the bowline and half hitches are coming up which is good cos I know how to do them as well as the mooring quick release hitch and thats it.

I did doubt the bowline knot being attached to the bow eye due to that it can come undone if not under load so like someone mentioned earlier on in the thread I just added a figure eight knot on the loose end to stop it slipping through.

I still can't see what is wrong with using a snap hook though... unless someone can enlighten me

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by kerny

Looks like the bowline and half hitches are coming up which is good cos I know how to do them as well as the mooring quick release hitch and thats it.

I did doubt the bowline knot being attached to the bow eye due to that it can come undone if not under load so like someone mentioned earlier on in the thread I just added a figure eight knot on the loose end to stop it slipping through.

I still can't see what is wrong with using a snap hook though... unless someone can enlighten me

Depending on which pattern of Karibiner you use, they can self release. I used to use one on the end of my diving reel, until trying to find my way out of a wreck one day, the end came to me rather than the other way around. I'll demonstrate how it happens when we meet up again.

[solent spence]

Originally Posted by diver 1

I agree with Chris ref splicing, much neater and stronger and long term. Any muppet can learn a good splice after 5mins on you tube these days

I've been wanting to learn the dark art of splicing for "years" so will be a muppet on you tube!! any learned tips??

[Rogue Wave]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Depending on which pattern of Karibiner you use, they can self release. I used to use one on the end of my diving reel, until trying to find my way out of a wreck one day, the end came to me rather than the other way around. I'll demonstrate how it happens when we meet up again.

ertainly

Agreed No snap hooks and the Karibiner would have to be Tested if only you knew someone with a spare one and owed you a favour.

I think Chris Moody;s Solution is rather elegant and it's how I do it.

I only use two knots at sea. A round turn and multiple hitches and a clove hitch. What nobody seems to have mentioned is a Bowline if exposed to tension can be a bugger to undo, and that can be iffy if your hanging over the tubes trying to undo it. So if you have to do a Bowline put a bite in it then it undoes every time regardless of how tight it is.

[Rogue Wave]

Originally Posted by solent spence

I've been wanting to learn the dark art of splicing for "years" so will be a muppet on you tube!! any learned tips??

Yeah Practice on Whammy (Blue Polyprp) Its shite to work with so it teaches you good attention to detail. then try with nice rope and you'll be well impressed

Also when you have split your three starnds but a ring od Insulting tape around the rope to stop the strands unravelling further.

Take your three Strans and run a spiral of Insulting tape along each strand different colour for each Strand makes it easy ro see where your splicing is going

You should get pleased with your efforts on about the tenth attempt

[solent spence]

thanks - that even sounds easy

[lakelandterrier]

I have an eye-splice around a S/S thimble attacted to bow eye with a S/S shackle - easy to remove / replace if necessary. I heat seal and whip the ends of the strands

[Cypman]

I would never trust a snap hook/carabiner, they regularly fail. I do use SS shackles but they must be fully tightened with a shackle key or pliers.
Once you have gained confidence splicing is really quite easy and you will quickly become an expert.
One of the main benefits of the bowline is that they will easily undo, even after huge tension. All you have to do is push the round turn of the knot downwards in the direction of the rope and the knot will easily open up.......simples.

[alystra]

Originally Posted by Cypman

I would never trust a snap hook/carabiner, they regularly fail. I do use SS shackles but they must be fully tightened with a shackle key or pliers.
Once you have gained confidence splicing is really quite easy and you will quickly become an expert.
One of the main benefits of the bowline is that they will easily undo, even after huge tension. All you have to do is push the round turn of the knot downwards in the direction of the rope and the knot will easily open up.......simples.

Agreed. Most nautical bends and hitches (knots) were designed to be easy to undo, i.e. not jam up hard. On the bow eye I have a bowline because it's too awkward to do an eye splice. When not under tension they are easy to undo, as described, but impossible while under tension. I tape the loose end to the main length. The painter is made fast to the loop of the mooring using a round turn and three or four half hitches (two can undo themselves in these circumstances). This hitch can always be undone even while under considerable tension.

[Peter_C]

I didn't see it mentioned but the "Water Bowline" is coming used for moorings.

Knots/Loop knots/Water bowline - Wikibooks, open books for an open world

[jyasaki]

The other thing I haven't seen is the practice of wiring shackles so they don't accidentally unscrew themselves (yes, it does happen - don't ask how I know.) A bit of safety wire prevents that.

jky

[Alan Priddy]

Any knot is a good knot as long as it doesn't undo. 4 pages on how to tie a knot? Alan P

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Alan Priddy

Any knot is a good knot as long as it doesn't undo. 4 pages on how to tie a knot? Alan P

I thought you were an old timer. Surely you remember the hole drilling thread...

[Alan Priddy]

Originally Posted by Poly

I thought you were an old timer. Surely you remember the hole drilling thread...

Point taken, that's when time stood still and clocks stopped! Alan P

[kross]

Put a figure of eight in the rope, put 2 turns through the u bolt to reduce chafing and then feed the loose end back through the figure of eight. Will not come lose. Recommended by RNLI trainer on RYA course.