Best not to speed in Chichester Harbour

[Ribald]

http://www.conservancy.co.uk/news/pr...?contentID=557

[Jimbob]

worth remembering, it seems to take for ever to get from Northney to the entrance, but £1000 quid buys alot of beer

[mdt]

Originally Posted by Jimbob

worth remembering, it seems to take for ever to get from Northney to the entrance, but £1000 quid buys alot of beer

but it will not buy much petrol the way things are going. Filled up the other day and it was £1.02 not a happy bunny.

[Lostboy]

£1.02? You poor thing, try filling it up for that down here. Cowes is currently £1.16/l and Gosport £1.09/l!!!!

[Jimbob]

Sparks at Chichester entrance is usually quite good, but i suppose its out of the way for many, not sure what the price is but i will find out next week when we are down there

[mdt]

Originally Posted by Lostboy

£1.02? You poor thing, try filling it up for that down here. Cowes is currently £1.16/l and Gosport £1.09/l!!!!

yep but i was talking about garage price not marine price…
but still it is sneaking up once more. Seams like that 5quid a gallon is looming fast

[Lostboy]

I feel better now, garage price down here is 95.9/l!!!!! (Thank god mine's back on its' trailer!)

[ADS]

I take it the speedlimit in Chichester Harbour only applies to motor boats. Obviously it couldn't possibly be relevant to asymmetric skiffs and multi hulls planing at 18-20 knots

[John Kennett]

Originally Posted by ADS

I take it the speedlimit in Chichester Harbour only applies to motor boats.

I've just checked, and it seems that the speed limits do not apply to sailing boats.

The Chichester Harbour Byelaws, 1973, section 5 states:

"The master of any power-driven vessel shall not, subject to the requirements of maintaining adequate steerage way and control, suffer or cause her to be navigated or driven in the harbour at a speed exceeding eight knots through, on or over the water, unless the consent in writing of the Harbourmaster has previously been obtained."

Looks like simple discrimination to me. Anyone want to take it up with Lt Col JQ Davis OBE, Manager and Harbour Master?

John

[ADS]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

I've just checked, and it seems that the speed limits do not apply to sailing boats.

The Chichester Harbour Byelaws, 1973, section 5 states:

"The master of any power-driven vessel shall not, subject to the requirements of maintaining adequate steerage way and control, suffer or cause her to be navigated or driven in the harbour at a speed exceeding eight knots through, on or over the water, unless the consent in writing of the Harbourmaster has previously been obtained."

Looks like simple discrimination to me. Anyone want to take it up with Lt Col JQ Davis OBE, Manager and Harbour Master?

John

I guessed as much, surely a 16ft Hobie Cat Travelling at 20 knots is just a dangerous as a similarly sized Searider doing the same speed, and for the record I have used both. I would say the RIB has alot more control than the sailboat.
I very much doubt there will ever been a speed limit relating to sailing boats due to the fact they have difficulty controlling their speed and in this case the fact that Hayling Island Sailing Club brings so much money to the area through large national sailing events.

[Jimbob]

Interesting that sail is not covered, is this the same with other speed limits e.g cowes , does anybody know

[Lostboy]

Generally yes. It is the same in most rivers (Medina, Hamble etc) around the Solent but generally unless you are sailing a dinghy, in which case you will struggle to motor anywhere, the limits are sufficiently high that most yachts (which can motor or sail) will probably not achieve the speeds under sail anyway. Hamble with its 6kn limit is always a fun one.

[LURCHER]

It is interseting that we have been pulled many time for speeding in the harbour and the Harbour patrol are very fair and tell us to slow down later the same day we overtake them in our Dart cat doing in excess of 17 knots and exchange waves! Ivan the RIB driver who was fined had been warned several times and made the mistake of telling them excatly what to do with his speed ticket! So no surprises for them actually doing him good and proper.
It helps if you say you think your saw your young son or daughter just capsize in a OPPY !
Sparke fuel 1.08 l but they have limited supply and next week with FED week I expect even less as we have about 30 RIBS on safety patrol every day .

[Jimbob]

lurcher

Save me some fuel at sparks please

Will be in wend lunchtime, mid afternoon for it

[LURCHER]

will do ! give us a call on m1 or m2 call sign 'longdog' if you are about

[Matt]

I used to do all my boating out of chi and occasionally also do rescue duty for HISC. It's a few years back now, but it particularly used to piss me off seeing the harbour master and ILB charging around in the harbour, not attending a rescue, going well in excess of the limit. On one particular occasion they came charging into the harbour together and stopped near camber for doughnuts and a cup of tea!!

They, in particular, should lead be example!! And adopting tactics of hiding to try and catch people out, rather than being a visible deterrent is classic police tactics that pisses the public off. They loved hiding behind the bar beacon, moored boats etc. I agree with the need to have a speed limit, and to enforce it, but I always found their duck and dive tactics to do so deplorable - watched them do it many times when I used to sail in the harbour.

(edit - bit of a caveat. This is about 5 years ago. Mebbe (hopefully) they've changed the crew)

[John Kennett]

From what I have seen the Chichester Harbour patrols seem to be run more as a paramilitary operation than a public service organisation.

I suspect that a Harbour Master who clings to his military rank, plus young patrol crew in uniform with epaulettes, are contributory factors!

John

[Lostboy]

Originally Posted by MadMat

I used to do all my boating out of chi and occasionally also do rescue duty for HISC. It's a few years back now, but it particularly used to piss me off seeing the harbour master and ILB charging around in the harbour, not attending a rescue, going well in excess of the limit. On one particular occasion they came charging into the harbour together and stopped near camber for doughnuts and a cup of tea!!

They, in particular, should lead be example!! And adopting tactics of hiding to try and catch people out, rather than being a visible deterrent is classic police tactics that pisses the public off. They loved hiding behind the bar beacon, moored boats etc. I agree with the need to have a speed limit, and to enforce it, but I always found their duck and dive tactics to do so deplorable - watched them do it many times when I used to sail in the harbour.

(edit - bit of a caveat. This is about 5 years ago. Mebbe (hopefully) they've changed the crew)

It's not a lot different to the Hamble militia, sorry I mean Harbourmasters, who do the same in their little rib-cat with no purpose. I have seen them speed, with lights, to provide a tow on ONE occasion, otherwise it just seems to be "do as I say, not as I do!".

[RIVA]

John your knowledge of our H.M

Is quiet staggering we call him peanut in the harbour because he was only half a colonel

Jas

[Matt]

Classic!!!