Best rough seas RIB??? - Page 2

Will Lankston · 10 April 2007, 14:24

Cheers guys....I thought it was a valid question- anyway back to the point of the thread..... ''''''IF''''''' you were by chance caught out in bad conditions-what sort of RIB would u feel most comfortable in?

codprawn · 10 April 2007, 14:49

Basically the bigger the better.

Big fat tubes - upswept bow - no transom so the water just pours out of the back.

In shallow water/surf a jet drive - in deep water a deep leg or even shafts.

Ocean Dynamics
http://www.mustangmarine.com/ribwork...olio/index.htm

Humber/Quinquari
http://www.quinquarimarine.co.uk/6.html

Delta
http://www.deltapower.co.uk/deltapower.html

Redbay
http://www.redbayboats.com/ribs/stormforce.htm

Funnily enough the best rough sea RIBs aren't exactly pretty!!!

This yellow Ocean Dynamics is the one I would like the most for our shallow waters. Also shown one of their older boats.

Will Lankston · 10 April 2007, 14:57

Thanks for all that info Codprawn! I am looking at Ribcraft.... all their boats above the 4.8 length are B coded. Which is hopefully all i would ever need! Have u had any experience with Ribcraft?

Pete7 · 10 April 2007, 14:58

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Basically the bigger the better.

Nope not covinced. Assuming your not crossing the Atlantic and there is reasonable hope of reaching a safe harbour within a few hours then I would choose something 6-7m with good power to weight ratio rather than a big slow diesel. that way you are able to drive around the waves accelerate up and down them and react quickly to breaking waves. What you want is the equivalent to sports car not an old lorry. However this assumes that the driver has the experience to drive a boat in those conditions.

Pete

Nauti Buoy · 10 April 2007, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by codprawn

Basically the bigger the better.

Big fat tubes - upswept bow - no transom so the water just pours out of the back.

In shallow water/surf a jet drive - in deep water a deep leg or even shafts.

Ocean Dynamics
http://www.mustangmarine.com/ribwork...olio/index.htm

Humber/Quinquari
http://www.quinquarimarine.co.uk/6.html

Delta
http://www.deltapower.co.uk/deltapower.html

Redbay
http://www.redbayboats.com/ribs/stormforce.htm

Funnily enough the best rough sea RIBs aren't exactly pretty!!!

This yellow Ocean Dynamics is the one I would like the most for our shallow waters. Also shown one of their older boats.

Plus

http://www.parkerribs.com

Extremely pleased with my Parker 900 Baltic, have had it out in some really rough seas and it's not put a foot wrong so more than happy to recommend it. Also upto 65 hours now and have not had one fault with the rib in any shape form or other.

Pete7 · 10 April 2007, 15:19

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Originally Posted by Will Lankston

Thanks for all that info Codprawn! I am looking at Ribcraft.... all their boats above the 4.8 length are B coded. Which is hopefully all i would ever need! Have u had any experience with Ribcraft?

DJL did an impressive return trip from Weymouth in a 4.8m Ribcraft in difficult conditions a couple of years ago. Its down to experience and taking your time. You might only be travelling at 8-9 knots but with care you will get there safely. Its the crew that give up first rather than the boat, although ancillaries can be a weak point leading into the accident pit. The lose of the GPS won't sink the rib, but if you have no other navigation system on board you could be in trouble.

Pete

Will Lankston · 10 April 2007, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Pete7

DJL did an impressive return trip from Weymouth in a 4.8m Ribcraft in difficult conditions a couple of years ago. Its down to experience and taking your time. You might only be travelling at 8-9 knots but with care you will get there safely. Its the crew that give up first rather than the boat, although ancillaries can be a weak point leading into the accident pit. The lose of the GPS won't sink the rib, but if you have no other navigation system on board you could be in trouble.

Pete

yeah i understand what you mean....Experience is obviously the deciding factor..... I think i want something quite small- which is why the ribcraft 4.8 or 5.3s or quite appealing...And apparently they are reliable! When on a poweboat course with Jono Garton's company (who were fantastic) we got into a bit of a rough patch coming out of Porthmadog marina-between the sandbanks... Would have been really hairy if we were without an instructor onboard.

Cookee · 10 April 2007, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Will Lankston

.... all their boats above the 4.8 length are B coded. Which is hopefully all i would ever need!

Be very very carefull about CE coding - it is pretty much self certificating - look at some of the Italian coding of RIBs and shouldn't be looked at as anything other than a rough guide! It certainly doesn't take into account hull shapes etc.

I am not implying any particular makes are wrongly coded of course!

codprawn · 10 April 2007, 16:27

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Originally Posted by Nauti Buoy

Plus

http://www.parkerribs.com

Extremely pleased with my Parker 900 Baltic, have had it out in some really rough seas and it's not put a foot wrong so more than happy to recommend it. Also upto 65 hours now and have not had one fault with the rib in any shape form or other.

Of course how could I forget?

I am also very impressed with my own boat!!!

codprawn · 10 April 2007, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete7

Nope not covinced. Assuming your not crossing the Atlantic and there is reasonable hope of reaching a safe harbour within a few hours then I would choose something 6-7m with good power to weight ratio rather than a big slow diesel. that way you are able to drive around the waves accelerate up and down them and react quickly to breaking waves. What you want is the equivalent to sports car not an old lorry. However this assumes that the driver has the experience to drive a boat in those conditions.

Pete

A lot depends on the conditions. I think you definitely lose the fun factor the bigger you go but in extreme conditions the big old lorry will keep plodding on.

Having said that zapcats cope pretty well in the surf!!!

ian mcconnell · 10 April 2007, 17:14

will

ive got a 5.4 searider, renowned for there sea keeping abilities and at this point the rib is more capable than me!!

I have had moments were i wished it was both heavier and longer but after being out in a ribcraft 5.3 with a 90hp on as well. I would also consider this a great rib and it is heavier than the searider..

What budget are you going to work towards???

Jeff Pike · 10 April 2007, 17:15

Hi Will.

Have just sent you a PM

Jeff

alystra · 10 April 2007, 17:52

Will,

I have a 5.3m Humber Destroyer. My son chose it when he was 15 (and paid for most of it with the 'car' money his grandfather left him) after much research. He looked hard at Ribcraft, but decided that Humber was as good and cheaper. They were really good to work with too, and very helpful.

He's been out in some wild weather and seas and returned safe and wet. (He was brought up on boats at sea and did a level 2 before he got the RIB) Also blagged rides on any RIBs visiting here, so got a good comparison of performance. The boat survived him with no problems. He eventually sold it to me and bought his car. I was a professional sailing instructor for half my working life, but even I feel safe in the Humber. It's basic compared to some, but really solid.

Will Lankston · 10 April 2007, 18:17

Alystra,

Sounds like the same situation I am in....Looking to do much the same! It seems everyone is reccomending Humber so I will defenitely take a look! If you don't mind me asking....How much did your rig cost when you bought it? PM me if you would prefer....

Quote:

Originally Posted by alystra

Will,

I have a 5.3m Humber Destroyer. My son chose it when he was 15 (and paid for most of it with the 'car' money his grandfather left him) after much research. He looked hard at Ribcraft, but decided that Humber was as good and cheaper. They were really good to work with too, and very helpful.

He's been out in some wild weather and seas and returned safe and wet. (He was brought up on boats at sea and did a level 2 before he got the RIB) Also blagged rides on any RIBs visiting here, so got a good comparison of performance. The boat survived him with no problems. He eventually sold it to me and bought his car. I was a professional sailing instructor for half my working life, but even I feel safe in the Humber. It's basic compared to some, but really solid.

Will Lankston · 10 April 2007, 18:20

Ian,

Am probably looking at £20,000 tops! would rather something around 18,000 or even cheaper! So I am defenitely looking at second hand RIBs. How much do the seariders go for 1st and 2nd hand?

Will

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian mcconnell

will

ive got a 5.4 searider, renowned for there sea keeping abilities and at this point the rib is more capable than me!!

I have had moments were i wished it was both heavier and longer but after being out in a ribcraft 5.3 with a 90hp on as well. I would also consider this a great rib and it is heavier than the searider..

What budget are you going to work towards???

alystra · 10 April 2007, 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will Lankston

Alystra,

Sounds like the same situation I am in....Looking to do much the same! It seems everyone is reccomending Humber so I will defenitely take a look! If you don't mind me asking....How much did your rig cost when you bought it? PM me if you would prefer....

Will,

PM for you. Here's a picture

Channelwatch · 11 April 2007, 02:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will Lankston

Thanks for all that info Codprawn! I am looking at Ribcraft.... all their boats above the 4.8 length are B coded. Which is hopefully all i would ever need! Have u had any experience with Ribcraft?

We love our 7.8M Ribcraft. We often go out in nasty conditions and the boat handles great and I understand their smaller models have simular ride characteristics.

dwalters · 11 April 2007, 08:39

Will

I have PM'd you about my ribcraft 5.85. Is a great rough weather boat.

Ian M · 11 April 2007, 13:13

Don't want to get into a mud slinging competition, but I tried many boats when looking for my new boat. I was looking in the 6 - 6.5 metre size range, and one boat in that size range was head and shoulders above the others for rough water performance; I believe it was a force 6 -7 that I took the demonstrator out in. Osprey Vipermax. I bought one

If you go for the self installation option, they can be quite cost effective as well, although I am still screwing mine together.

Hightower · 11 April 2007, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian M

Don't want to get into a mud slinging competition, but I tried many boats when looking for my new boat. I was looking in the 6 - 6.5 metre size range, and one boat in that size range was head and shoulders above the others for rough water performance; I believe it was a force 6 -7 that I took the demonstrator out in. Osprey Vipermax. I bought one

If you go for the self installation option, they can be quite cost effective as well, although I am still screwing mine together.

Yep, and so have I