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25 April 2011, 07:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 44
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Best small RIB
I want to buy a RIB up to 6m, I want power,good handling inshore and offshore......Please advise as I am very new to this and really want to make the right choice...my budget is about £10000
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25 April 2011, 09:57
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,067
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6m isn't really a small rib ![smilie](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif) With a £10k budget, you're limited to 2nd hand with the criteria you've posted.
How much fuel can you afford?
Do you want to pose or not?
How many people do you regularly want to fit aboard?
What are your potential uses for it?
Oh, and do you want to go and look Neptune in the eye in a F8 and laugh then run away on the adrenaline buzz?
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25 April 2011, 11:01
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2006
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Oh, and do you want to go and look Neptune in the eye in a F8 and laugh then run away on the adrenaline buzz?
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The guy does say up to, I suggested by PM that new hull + 2nd hand engine can be achieved on this budget.
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25 April 2011, 20:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I don't read him saying he wants new ~ 10k buys a very nice 2nd hand package.
Peter ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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25 April 2011, 23:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 44
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Originally Posted by Boatsandoutboards4sale
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i can look....but what rib do I look for....?
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25 April 2011, 23:21
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew nolan
I want to buy a RIB up to 6m, I want power,good handling inshore and offshore......Please advise as I am very new to this and really want to make the right choice...my budget is about £10000
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I carry about 4 people....and for about 5 hours at see....and yes I would love to pose with the posh foke but a good Rib would be better.......Please help before I buy a bag of rubbish >>>
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25 April 2011, 23:57
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tornado-6m-RIB...#ht_877wt_1139
Sell the engine for maybe a grand? Then you have £3.5k left to spend on a better engine, although the guy says that it has been checked over by a mech so it may be ok.
Edit: assuming it's Ficht RAM and not Ficht, this might be ok? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/6-2m-RIB-90-Hp...#ht_794wt_1139
Best advice...find something you like the look of, there are loads of places: B&O, boatshop24 etcetc. then post and ask if it looks ok or it's something to avoid. If it's a lemon, we'll tell you!
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26 April 2011, 00:21
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,067
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew nolan
I carry about 4 people....and for about 5 hours at see....and yes I would love to pose with the posh foke but a good Rib would be better.......Please help before I buy a bag of rubbish >>>
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4 people on board is going to mean at least 5.5 metres (no Avon Seariders then, unless you're very lucky and find a 6m cheap!)or it's going to be cramped and you'll need to be close to the max rated power for the hull to make it move well.
A good way of calculating your maximum fuel usage is 4 litres per hour per 10hp at full throttle-so for example that 135 ( (135/10)x4) on the Tornado will be using around 54 litres an hour at full throttle. It'll use a lot less at cruising speeds,and even less at cruising speeds if it's a 4 stroke or a new tech 2 stroke (Tohatsu TLDI, Merc/Mariner Optimax or Evinrude Etec)
That Tornado looks like it could be a nice boat. Not sure it's worth what he's asking though given what the engine is, and it's got unknown engine faults.
In any case, if you're spending £10k on a 2nd hand boat,research the pariculalr boat first, get a sea trial on it and get a survey on it. Nobody with nothing to hide will refuse to let you do either.
Oh, and as Gotchi says:-
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Originally Posted by gotchiguy
Best advice...find something you like the look of, there are loads of places: B&O, boatshop24 etcetc. then post and ask if it looks ok or it's something to avoid. If it's a lemon, we'll tell you!
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26 April 2011, 06:03
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
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A small RIB up to 6m. 6.2m?
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26 April 2011, 07:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew nolan
I want to buy a RIB up to 6m, I want power,good handling inshore and offshore......Please advise as I am very new to this and really want to make the right choice...my budget is about £10000
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This boat is on eBay........what do you recon...good buy bad buy
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26 April 2011, 07:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew nolan
This boat is on eBay........what do you recon...good buy bad buy
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Tornado 4.5m sports rib. Complete package which includes:-
Snipe breakback rollercoaster trailer complete with lightboard
Mercury 60Hp 2 stroke (new in 2004) full service history with electric tilt and trim, Tohatsu 3.5Hp auxillary new in 2007
Flares, first aid kit, anchors, chain and ropes, fenders, oars, boat hook, full cover, 2 gas inflator life jackets.
2 x 25l fuel tanks
Stainless A-frame which folds down when towing / storage. Nav lights and radio aerial are on the A-frame
Hitch lock and wheelclamp
Garmin 451S colour chart plotter / fish finder / sonar (new in 2009)
Icom IC-M411 radio with DSC etc (new in 2009)
This boat has a custom built bench seat which can easily be removed. Also removable back rest for the seat (which we never use). There is a single jockey seat and room for several people on the tubes. We have comfortably taken 6 people out. She will reach a top speed of approximately 30k and is extremely easy to tow, launch, recover and handle on the water. She was last serviced at the end of 2009 which included a new impeller to the main engine. Has been in the water this year to check everything is in working order. Tubes were renewed in approx 2006 (hypalon). This boat is a fantastic fun boat and would make an ideal starter package. Any questions please email me. Deposit via paypal of £500 at end of auction, the balance to be cash on collection.
good or bad.....
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26 April 2011, 07:30
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Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Bangor
Boat name: Mitigator
Make: XS
Length: 7m +
Engine: Mercury Verado 250
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 72
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Tornado 4.5 is a good boat, but I think you'll find it small. We run one in our rescue fleet and there is no way I'd allow it to carry six people except in calm conditions and for a short ferry ride! (It WILL do it - but comfortably? Nah....). Crews consider it the "runt of the litter" compared with the other hulls which are all 5m and handle so much better in the chop....
No mention of price I could see? How old is the hull?
Would strongly recommend at least 5m for what you seem to want. Anything up to 6m is pretty easy to tow and launch, so why settle for 4.5?
If it were me, I'd keep looking!
Regards
Mike
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26 April 2011, 07:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 6m +
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Avon 620 worth considering.
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/r...hp-2ltr-TMS078
Seems ok but I'd rather a 4 stroke with 10k to spend
Google a company called south west rib centre or southern cross yachts - speak with Rob or Tom and tell them what you want. They have a good selection of new and used packages. They will sort you out or advise further
Tell them Peter from the yard put you in touch with them.
Peter ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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26 April 2011, 07:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: wells
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 115
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 105
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ribcraft
10K will get you a good S/H RC5.8, may even get you mine
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26 April 2011, 08:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike-m
Tornado 4.5 is a good boat, but I think you'll find it small. We run one in our rescue fleet and there is no way I'd allow it to carry six people except in calm conditions and for a short ferry ride! (It WILL do it - but comfortably? Nah....). Crews consider it the "runt of the litter" compared with the other hulls which are all 5m and handle so much better in the chop....
No mention of price I could see? How old is the hull?
Would strongly recommend at least 5m for what you seem to want. Anything up to 6m is pretty easy to tow and launch, so why settle for 4.5?
If it were me, I'd keep looking!
Regards
Mike
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yer your right just scared of spending all my money and losing out....thanks for your advice....
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26 April 2011, 08:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatsandoutboards4sale
Avon 620 worth considering.
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/r...hp-2ltr-TMS078
Seems ok but I'd rather a 4 stroke with 10k to spend
Google a company called south west rib centre or southern cross yachts - speak with Rob or Tom and tell them what you want. They have a good selection of new and used packages. They will sort you out or advise further
Tell them Peter from the yard put you in touch with them.
Peter ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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That look a good one I like it......is that about what its worth.....are they any good..?
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26 April 2011, 09:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew nolan
That look a good one I like it......is that about what its worth.....are they any good..?
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I just remembered I have been trying to contact these people for over a week and no answer so I give up
Total Marine Services
Ferrara Square Swansea Marina Swansea
SA1 1UZ
Tel: 01792 468808
Web: http://www.totalmarineservices.co.uk
it just rings out...?
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26 April 2011, 09:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
Join Date: Apr 2011
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How about this
its on ebay...120716429529
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26 April 2011, 16:33
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,067
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew nolan
its on ebay...120716429529
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The Delta has ended.
You really need a seat per person-ie, if you're carrying 4 regularly, you need a minimum of 2 double jockey seats.
Yes, you can change layouts, but check how much it'll cost before buying something that's not ideal as the cost of refit may shock you.
<edit> What's your budget? You say £10k here, but your other want ad says £5k.
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26 April 2011, 16:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birmingham
Boat name: Rosie
Make: Valiant PT520
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner Optimax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
The Delta has ended.
You really need a seat per person-ie, if you're carrying 4 regularly, you need a minimum of 2 double jockey seats.
Yes, you can change layouts, but check how much it'll cost before buying something that's not ideal as the cost of refit may shock you.
<edit> What's your budget? You say £10k here, but your other want ad says £5k.
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£10000 but I think i am expecting to much....so I am thinking as a new RIB owner well not yet, I think a safe option could be £5000 or am I talking crap
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