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02 March 2006, 20:41
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
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Boat & power chosen, Where does AUX go
Right men some ideas please , New 8.5 chosen with single verado 275. New 30 hp lightweight chosen as aux power. Where do I stow it. My last 6.3 with 150 opti had a ten strapped behind last two jockeys at stern and was a sound set up, but i'd like to get the weight forward if I can, strapped inboard meant little buffeting, but I like good balance (in case of take off - and oh yea, I've had a few hehe). Any one tried to get the o/b shaft under a double jockey seat for stowage?
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02 March 2006, 21:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: Calshot
Boat name: Swan Song
Make: LM 27
Length: 8m +
Engine: Bukh 20
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Right men some ideas please , New 8.5 chosen with single verado 275. New 30 hp lightweight chosen as aux power. Where do I stow it. My last 6.3 with 150 opti had a ten strapped behind last two jockeys at stern and was a sound set up, but i'd like to get the weight forward if I can, strapped inboard meant little buffeting, but I like good balance (in case of take off - and oh yea, I've had a few hehe). Any one tried to get the o/b shaft under a double jockey seat for stowage?
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Are you serious?Do you think you can manhandle a 30hp motor over the stern and clamp it on at sea?
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About 1.5 litres per hour (slower but easier on the pocket)
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02 March 2006, 21:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,884
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clamping a 10 or 15 on the back at sea would be tricky but a 30 would be really tough, remember there is not much room reaching over so you have to think you might need to do it single handed!!
unless you are jeff capes
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02 March 2006, 22:42
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Yes we worked out a system of winching it over the A frame, and lowering it onto the aux bracket. Force 6 this was tested (well a slightlty lighter motor granted, but bear in mind this is a light weight 30) should say I'm, 6'5" hehe
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02 March 2006, 23:05
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
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Dont u guys have proper breakfast ??
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02 March 2006, 23:07
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Town: Hayle, Kernow
Boat name: Spare RIB
Make: Narwhal
Length: 5m +
Engine: 130 Yam Outboard
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Id like to see the video of that
Shaggy
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02 March 2006, 23:53
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Still listening guys ,, points apreciated, tell me what you think that motor weighs without checking the stats, then tell me when u last lifted a big bag of cement or fertiliser?
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03 March 2006, 00:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bromsgrove
Boat name: Flatacraft
Make: Flatacraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 70hp (OB)
Join Date: Feb 2006
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i havnt checked to see how heavy 1 is but its heavy i now that but not only heavy orkward too i can just imagine u wen uve broke down tryin to put that on the back with a choppy sea
id go smaller myself
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03 March 2006, 00:39
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Well BigMuz is taking some stick here for his large choice of aux, although he deserves some credit as you do see many large ribs with small aux's as an after thought, i.e 7.5m with a 3.3hp. Following on from Phil Davies's comment earlier today a 3.3hp will provide as much propulsion as a rampant rabbit
A 30HP Tohatsu 2 stoke is 51kgs and its 30HP 4 stroke counterpart is 69.5kg.
51KG is not a massive amount but they are awkward to carry and would be difficult to clamp on the transom in a rough sea. The ideal engine would probably be a 15HP or a 20HP, however, the Tohatsu 18HP is 41KG, for 10KG more you can get the 30HP with 50% more power.
Alex
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03 March 2006, 00:44
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Isle of Skye
Boat name: Seafari - VHF CH 71
Make: Humbers+Catamaran
Length: 6m +
Engine: Volvo/Iveco/Suzuki
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 199
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Your havinga laugh
i 'attempted' a 25hp as an aux engine last year, and thought of a happy stow a way place for it on a 9.5m boat.. did not work in any fashion or form.
If it is not fixed in a place ready to go, forget it.... unless you are only taking out weight lifters, when you need it........ believe me an aux that size is a dream, that will not come true.
pete
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03 March 2006, 01:25
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
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Originally Posted by seafariskye
..If it is not fixed in place ready to go, forget it....
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Agreed.
Nothing wrong with 30hp though.
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03 March 2006, 08:14
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Yeh. jw used to carry 2 30hp "auxiliaries".
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03 March 2006, 08:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
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personally i like to have a couple of spare auxiliaries as well
as long as i have one of the eight running i am fine
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03 March 2006, 11:47
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Nothing wrong with having a few forms of alternative power:
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03 March 2006, 14:45
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Town: Glasgow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
personally i like to have a couple of spare auxiliaries as well
as long as i have one of the eight running i am fine
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Hehe, thats more like it - 5 I have seen, but not 8, I take it the big bit in the middle of the boat is the fuel tank, hehe
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03 March 2006, 14:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ADS
Nothing wrong with having a few forms of alternative power:
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A fine vintage display, my mum used to have a food mixer a bit like one of them, hehe
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03 March 2006, 19:48
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
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Engine: 2 x 370hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Hehe, thats more like it - 5 I have seen, but not 8, I take it the big bit in the middle of the boat is the fuel tank, hehe
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No the whole hull is a fuel tank and we keep the precious cargo in the cabin to keep it dry!
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05 March 2006, 22:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Towcester
Boat name: Rupert
Make: Rupert R7
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 200
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Aux must be ready to run
Hi
My advise is as follows:
The auxilary must be ready to run. lower, open air vent, turn fuel cock pull cord.
when you need it (to save your life) you will need it running within seconds. It might enable you to keep head to sea and avoid a broach for example.
Routine at launch is to start auxilary every trip - you have seen it run today. not six months ago!
How to achive these things is the difficult part.
good luck getting it fitted and ready - but foget winching it in to place.
Paul Beaurain
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05 March 2006, 23:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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A much better approach to boating is to avoid putting yourself in a situation where you need the aux to save your life.
Or if you must do so, (RNLI eg), don't mess around, just get twin engines.
The aux then becomes a hassle saver, rather than a life saver, and as such, you can have it stowed in a dry locker, wrapped up, so it actually stands a chance of working when you need it.
Think about it - the poor thing has been sitting on the back of the boat getting splashed and sprayed for months, and rarely runs at all. So it'd probably damp as hell, either electrically, mechanically, or both.
A membership to seastart is probably a much wiser investment.
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06 March 2006, 19:16
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
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Engine: Etec 90
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Thanks for your thoughts Guys, I appreciate it
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