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25 October 2010, 14:54
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N. Pembrokeshire
Boat name: Various
Make: RIBs & Hovercraft
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Boat /caravan storage costs?
Have been to see a property with more barns than we would need (as well as being slightly overbudget )
Loads of space...as was an old /small dairy farm....plenty of stone outbuildings to convert when time /funds /permissions allow, but would need the large barns /hardstanding to begin earning their keep /making money early doors...
So....do any of you store your boats /caravans overwinter? If so, what would you want?
Undercover /outdoor and what would you pay per week for each option?
I will need to look into liability insurance etc (do you store at your own risk /at owners?) and what level of security would you expect for your money?
No shortage of owners who transport their vans /boats up here for the season. also any idea of the storage period woudl be great (we could happily store boast year round for use when owners arrive.....caravans tend to move onto the sites for the spring summer)
In terms of security....one lane in /out which is made up and not tarmac, but is in good nick....well maintained hedgerow too.
Will also be looking at a Certificated location for tents /caravans....
.....any help appreciated!
Thanks Dan
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25 October 2010, 16:09
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
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Just an Idea , have you thought about converting a barn into accommodation for ribbers on fishing trips especially the winter months when its too cold to camp ,if there is room for car and trailers I'm sure it would take off quite nicely .
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25 October 2010, 16:25
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Dan
I'll send you some details by PM.
Nasher.
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25 October 2010, 16:59
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Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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Originally Posted by Dan Worth
Have been to see a property with more barns than we would need (as well as being slightly overbudget )
Loads of space...as was an old /small dairy farm....plenty of stone outbuildings to convert when time /funds /permissions allow, but would need the large barns /hardstanding to begin earning their keep /making money early doors...
So....do any of you store your boats /caravans overwinter? If so, what would you want?
Undercover /outdoor and what would you pay per week for each option?
I will need to look into liability insurance etc (do you store at your own risk /at owners?) and what level of security would you expect for your money?
No shortage of owners who transport their vans /boats up here for the season. also any idea of the storage period woudl be great (we could happily store boast year round for use when owners arrive.....caravans tend to move onto the sites for the spring summer)
In terms of security....one lane in /out which is made up and not tarmac, but is in good nick....well maintained hedgerow too.
Will also be looking at a Certificated location for tents /caravans....
.....any help appreciated!
Thanks Dan
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Dan, That sounds like an interesting opportunity. Kerny's suggestion of turning it into a "bunkhouse" of some sort sounds interesting although would require capital investment as well as planning permission. You'd still need planning permission for change of use to boat/van storage but possibly not as difficult?
I've stored boats in various places - here is a rough idea of costs and security:
1. Dinghy park at "marina". CCTV on entrance road - but nothing to stop random person removing a boat. Cost about £350 a year as I recall. Price was for up to about 5m.
2. Boat yard in rural location, no cctv, no security, outdoors. Cost £200 a year for a 4m boat. Price per ft.
3. Inside a shed at a marina. CCTV. Shed locked outside normal hours but essentially open during the day. Cost about £500-600 a year when paid quarterly. Price was per "parking space". Discounts if you paid annually.
4. Inside a shed on a very rickety boatyard with random builders rubbish etc strewn around. Shed and outer compound both locked (with all users having keys). Cost £18 per month, based on length.
None of these places were insuring for me. All had a slipway though (use FOC to 'berth' holders).
All of these are cheap compared to the competition locally.
I wonder if there is a way you can offer a launch / recovery service on top (e.g. there is somewhere in the clyde does this for about £900 per annum). You'd obviously need to be able to launch as and when a customer needs it. Most people could probably book that the day before and would be happy for you to put boats in for the whole weekened etc... if there is somewhere safe to keep them afloat.
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25 October 2010, 17:18
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N. Pembrokeshire
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Make: RIBs & Hovercraft
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Cheers guys....
Bunk house is a definate....had wated this mainly for the divers, but Ribbers etc all welcome !!
As Polwart says, permissions /capital etc will be required.....so may not be immediate...
Nasher, cheers for the detailed Pm mate....much appreciated, as is Polwarts....
Thanks guys....keep em coming!
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25 October 2010, 17:33
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
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I store my boat in a locked barn over winter, farmer only has keys. cost £25+vat.
No insurance provided, boat insurance covers it.
He allows NO access to boat over winter, which suites me fine!
S.
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25 October 2010, 20:14
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Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle
Boat name: Merlin
Make: RB4 Gemini 550
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90C
Join Date: Sep 2006
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interesting thread
am looking at the issue of storage at the moment.
I am probably about to go the Boat yard at the marina route - outside, when
I woud much prefer to store inside, but the boat doesn't fit in my garage
and so far have been unable to find inside storage in the Newcastle area.
The caravan storage places are all full as well, obviously the market could take some more inside storage.
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25 October 2010, 21:27
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
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Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Originally Posted by SPR
I store my boat in a locked barn over winter, farmer only has keys. cost £25+vat.
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£25 + VAT for the whole winter?
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25 October 2010, 21:31
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Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
£25 + VAT for the whole winter?
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i wish ! per month
S.
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25 October 2010, 21:33
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Originally Posted by SPR
i wish ! per month
S.
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Still not bad.
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25 October 2010, 21:53
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Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
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Yes not bad, and we only pay £7 per foot for the summer season on a drying mooring or £40 for a season launch pass...
April - October = summer Season
S.
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25 October 2010, 22:29
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£40 for a season launch pass...
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What do you get for the £40? Car parking included?
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25 October 2010, 22:50
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: North East Scotland
Boat name: Redbay 10
Make: Redbay
Length: 9m +
Engine: Twin Yam inb 165hp
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 62
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whereabouts in scotland?
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25 October 2010, 23:10
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Town: Central Belt of Scotland
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Car parking is £2 a day or £20 for season pass... April - October - or March if you crazy enough!
All down at Elie Harbour, Fife
You can join the club for £58 a year or £80 a year family (under 21 or in full time education)
http://www.eesc.org.uk is clubs website, we don't own the harbour but we own the club house and dinghy park, we also have powerboat section in club.
S.
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26 October 2010, 08:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 225
Join Date: Jun 2010
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*grumbles about south coast marina prices*
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26 October 2010, 12:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
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*grumbles about south coast marina prices*
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With you on that
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27 October 2010, 18:31
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Town: N. Devon
Boat name: (Not Another) Nutkin
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Local farm charges £5.00 per week in the gated yard and £10 per week to go in the open barn that is alongside the yard.
Secured during dark and at the end of a long farm lane with farm house on the way in. Insurance is offered but not sure what it is, I prefer to extend the boats own insurance for this.
They also have containers on the site and these range in price depending on size and hire length.
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27 October 2010, 21:03
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Town: Salisbury
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Storage
Just got my anual demand.
110 pounds for the year.
lndoors, 365 day access, CCTV, Card controlled access.
yes 110 pounds!!! went up from 100 this year. (less than a pint of beer a week)
Cheers
Tufty
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27 October 2010, 22:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TUFTY
Just got my anual demand.
110 pounds for the year.
lndoors, 365 day access, CCTV, Card controlled access.
yes 110 pounds!!! went up from 100 this year. (less than a pint of beer a week)
Cheers
Tufty
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jees that wouldnt get you 2 weeks here!!
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