Bombard or Brig?!

[KevinOD]

Hello all. If you had the option of buying a 2022 low hour Brig Falcon 500 with Hypalon tubes or a new Bombard Sunrider with zodiacs bidirectional weave PVC and full warranty, (for a few € more), which would you buy?
It will be a family boat based in Ireland, so not a sunny country!!!!
I can’t decide!
Thanks
Kevin

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by KevinOD

Hello all. If you had the option of buying a 2022 low hour Brig Falcon 500 with Hypalon tubes or a new Bombard Sunrider with zodiacs bidirectional weave PVC and full warranty, (for a few € more), which would you buy?
It will be a family boat based in Ireland, so not a sunny country!!!!
I can’t decide!
Thanks
Kevin

I would go with the Bombard but if looking at new consider the 3d Tender range. Modern materials are in my opinion far superior to Hypalon

[Iron Dials]

Engines?

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by KevinOD

Hello all. If you had the option of buying a 2022 low hour Brig Falcon 500 with Hypalon tubes or a new Bombard Sunrider with zodiacs bidirectional weave PVC and full warranty, (for a few € more), which would you buy?
It will be a family boat based in Ireland, so not a sunny country!!!!
I can’t decide!
Thanks
Kevin

Depending on engines & options, trailer etc
Id stick with the used boat personally, presumably someone already paid the first installment of the depreciation & probably fitted useful accessories & Ironed out any teething troubles.
Hypalon will retain its value better than pvc & polyurethane. Presumably the used boat will still have a significant period of manufacturers hull tube & engine warranty remaining anyway

Edit hopefully this is a genuine question & not just another easdale novice clone account, didnt realise it was the ops 1st post when I replied but it smells of easedale bullshit.
Sorry if its genuine
Maybe add some more info

[Pikey Dave]

Are these the only 2 boats that you have a choice of? If I had to choose one or the other it would be the Brig, and I’m no fan of Brig boats. Bear in mind that the hull is only half of the equation, you also need to consider the layout & engine. Making the choice simply on the basic hull is an odd way to go imho.

[KevinOD]

Thanks for the replies guys. So engine and layout options are nearly identical for both boats. My question was narrowly focused on tube material as there is so much opinion out there on Hypalon versus PVC and I was getting at that only. I agree with the response about the used Brig having depreciated but the cost of collection (and it also needs a trailer) brings it close to the cost of a new Bombard. As the Bombard can be bought locally there is the intangible benefit of local after sales support also. So yes, lots of ways to cross compare but my question was and remains PVC v. Hypalon bearing in mind that this is a family pleasure boat that will be under a cover or a roof when not in use. I’m thinking that modern PVC (Strongan Duotex) might well be adequate for me.

[Iron Dials]

Where in Ireland are you going to run the boat?
Hull shape might be a relevant factor depending on the seas you intend to use it.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by KevinOD

Thanks for the replies guys. So engine and layout options are nearly identical for both boats. My question was narrowly focused on tube material as there is so much opinion out there on Hypalon versus PVC and I was getting at that only. I agree with the response about the used Brig having depreciated but the cost of collection (and it also needs a trailer) brings it close to the cost of a new Bombard. As the Bombard can be bought locally there is the intangible benefit of local after sales support also. So yes, lots of ways to cross compare but my question was and remains PVC v. Hypalon bearing in mind that this is a family pleasure boat that will be under a cover or a roof when not in use. I’m thinking that modern PVC (Strongan Duotex) might well be adequate for me.

Tricky one. Personally I think you'll lose less money on the Brig, someone has already taken the initial depreciation hit. Hypalon will be a strong selling point, even more so as the boat gets older, PVC will age faster than Hypalon.
I can't help feeling that you've already made up your mind & are just wanting some afirmation. So if you want the Bombard, go for it & enjoy it

[KevinOD]

Originally Posted by Iron Dials

Where in Ireland are you going to run the boat?
Hull shape might be a relevant factor depending on the seas you intend to use it.

I drive a Brig Falcon 500 at the moment in the harbour in Cork as a safety boat accompanying sailing dingys. Most of my use initially will be within the harbour or inshore hops along the coast weather permitting.

[KevinOD]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Tricky one. Personally I think you'll lose less money on the Brig, someone has already taken the initial depreciation hit. Hypalon will be a strong selling point, even more so as the boat gets older, PVC will age faster than Hypalon.
I can't help feeling that you've already made up your mind & are just wanting some afirmation. So if you want the Bombard, go for it & enjoy it

Thanks Dave. Not looking for affirmation so much as trying to break the impasse. I can see the advantages of both boats and I am trying to balance the benefit of buying locally (warranty?) against importing the Hypalon boat and the risks that go with that. I get where you are coming from tho. It might boil down to just going for one and enjoy it as you say. There is no right or wrong in the long run if the family enjoy it and make memories.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by KevinOD

Thanks Dave. Not looking for affirmation so much as trying to break the impasse. I can see the advantages of both boats and I am trying to balance the benefit of buying locally (warranty?) against importing the Hypalon boat and the risks that go with that. I get where you are coming from tho. It might boil down to just going for one and enjoy it as you say. There is no right or wrong in the long run if the family enjoy it and make memories.

The other important thing to consider is the engine servicing. Unless you're going to DIY, then consider the proximity of dealers.

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

The other important thing to consider is the engine servicing. Unless you're going to DIY, then consider the proximity of dealers.

PD's pretty much spot on with what he's said in his posts & replies

Not much to add to what hes already said, the engine fitted to either boat may be the deciding factor

[Iron Dials]

Originally Posted by KevinOD

I drive a Brig Falcon 500 at the moment in the harbour in Cork as a safety boat accompanying sailing dingys. Most of my use initially will be within the harbour or inshore hops along the coast weather permitting.

You already have one of the two boats you mention!
No mention of existing engine hours, boat
age or seakeeping.
I smell a little videographer…… small man, large number of posts here

Most clubs operate their own ribs as safety boats,
If I’m wrong DM me.

Lots of well established dealers around Cork for honest advice and if you’re in a club in Cork you would know where to go for that advice.

Who buys a boat based on the advice of unkowns from the internet?

[KevinOD]

Wow, where did that attitude come out of? Small man remarks? Videographer? This is my first boat, I drive one volunteering but don’t own one (not going to explain further) and I have heard so many opinions I thought to throw up a question. Thanks to the genuine people who took time to respond as the opinions shared have helped me to decide what to do, just like the opinions given by some friends locally. Forums like this are where people ask questions and people offer advice. Not give a use. This one is my last post.

[Iron Dials]

I can only apologise unreservedly.
My fault entirely.
Best of luck in your boat purchase.

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by Iron Dials

I can only apologise unreservedly.
My fault entirely.
Best of luck in your boat purchase.

Originally Posted by Iron Dials

I can only apologise unreservedly.
My fault entirely.
Best of luck in your boat purchase.

I wouldnt loose sleep over it, the thread smells of easdale novice alias to me too.
This is the problem with having easdale on here, everyone is cautious to not enter into one of his contra arguments & end up potentially being rude or sharp with new members who might be asking a genuine question without giving the full story.

Kevin if your post is genuine be assured there are many experienced genuine posters on here who will give you good sound advice stick around you'll soon know whos advice is good & whos isnt