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08 August 2005, 10:56
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Country: Belgium
Town: NIVELLES BELGIUM
Boat name: INDEPENDENT
Make: BWM RAPIER
Length: 9m +
Engine: Ob 2*250/2t yams hpd
MMSI: 235030702
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book values Rib
My rib is currently on my company's books. I need to sell it to myself at the
book value. Any idea how you caluclate this??
year end .........1993
Make ...............BWM 28' rapier
Purchase value..55000 quid fully equipped - two man cabin, chartplotter, radar . 2x200 hp 2t carb yams 1993.
The electronics were replaced in 2002 and the engines this year. All this was paid by myself personally- so that in fact I would have to pay just the hull
and tubes. so what is it worth??
hull & tubes VAt excluded??
thanks anybody
jonathan
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08 August 2005, 11:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: emsworth
Boat name: the black stuff
Make: BALLISTIC
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2 x 200hp etec's
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if its already on the book then it has a value as a asset of the company ( or is that me being stupid ) so thats what you pay , if you did not write it dowen properly get a new acountant
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08 August 2005, 11:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,252
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Originally Posted by RIVA
if its already on the book then it has a value as a asset of the company ( or is that me being stupid ) so thats what you pay , if you did not write it dowen properly get a new acountant
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I second this word for word, it is not what it is worth but what it has been written down to!
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08 August 2005, 12:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Isle of Wight
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A true accountant would ask "What do you want it to be worth?".
Do you want to make a gain or loss on disposal. Have you considered the tax position wrt corporation, income & VAT?
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08 August 2005, 12:15
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
I second this word for word, it is not what it is worth but what it has been written down to!
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Not true at all - depreceation is usually taken into account by most places. Just look how much cars or computers lose!!!
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08 August 2005, 12:17
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I think you'll find that's exactly what Nick is saying!
John
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08 August 2005, 12:22
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Town: swansea
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Make: BLANK
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Sorry I mistook what he meant by written down - been having one of THOSE days!!!!
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08 August 2005, 12:24
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Yep it is John!
Example just sold my company car it was written down to £6,600 on the books, but was worth a lot more ( just sold it for £8,000) if I had wanted to keep it personally I would have paid the £6,600 for it Not the £8,000 I got for it!
Dose that make it clear?
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08 August 2005, 12:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Sorry I mistook what he meant by written down - been having one of THOSE days!!!!
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It's monday, say no more!
When you getting that boat on the water?
Nick
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08 August 2005, 13:52
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
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Engine: Suzuki DT225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
It's monday, say no more!
When you getting that boat on the water?
Nick
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God knows - was hoping start of August but end is looking a lot more likely!!!!
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08 August 2005, 14:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
God knows - was hoping start of August but end is looking a lot more likely!!!!
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Fingers crossed for a Indian summer then!
Nick
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08 August 2005, 14:49
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Member
Country: Belgium
Town: NIVELLES BELGIUM
Boat name: INDEPENDENT
Make: BWM RAPIER
Length: 9m +
Engine: Ob 2*250/2t yams hpd
MMSI: 235030702
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thanks everybody - but my accountant has told me " what do you want it to
be" - as "bookwise" its worth nothing ( 30% /year on residual value) without the engines. The engines & electonics are my personal property - but at the same time cannot tell the taxman -its worth twopence.Basically we are talking about nine meters of polyester hull and 20 meters odd of hyperlon tube, but I have to invoice myself and pay VAT. Anybody think 1500 quid would do?
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08 August 2005, 15:23
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
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£500 & then I would think you are being generous to the company!
It is yours after all, the only person who is going to gain by you paying more money is the tax man!
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08 August 2005, 15:51
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Country: Ireland
Town: inn wiliks hed
Make: Redbay 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Twin Etec 90hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
( just sold it for £8,000)
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Originally Posted by eupa
but at the same time cannot tell the taxman
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i startid mi noo jobb toodaiy.
gArf
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08 August 2005, 16:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
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i startid mi noo jobb toodaiy.
gArf
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Hope the new job goes well!
Yes I have vat to pay £208.50, should I send it direct to you?
Nick
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08 August 2005, 21:19
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exspyrd trayd membir
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Town: inn wiliks hed
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Length: 6m +
Engine: Twin Etec 90hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
was hoping start of August but end is looking a lot more likely!!!!
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i fink yew arr rite. de bild iz att an addvancid stayge. sea fowto. de gud nooz iz de jakk playte werks. de badd nooz iz dat itt woz fittid uppsyde dowen an wen de buton woz prest yorr suezewki sloely disappered beneeth de fkin worter. itt shud bee dryed owt bi fridaiy.
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08 August 2005, 22:46
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Veneered chipboard eh? Now that's posh!
John
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09 August 2005, 06:58
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Member
Country: Belgium
Town: NIVELLES BELGIUM
Boat name: INDEPENDENT
Make: BWM RAPIER
Length: 9m +
Engine: Ob 2*250/2t yams hpd
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yorr suezewki sloely disappered beneeth de fkin worter. itt shud bee dryed owt bi fridaiy.
Beginning to get the hang of the lingo!!!!!!!!!!!. I wonder how he does it- dont tell me its natural ....surely not.
I didn't realize that Garfish was principle contractor for Codder's rib??
Jonathan
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09 August 2005, 23:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eupa
I didn't realize that Garfish was principle contractor for Codder's rib??
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Nor did codders!
John
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