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06 October 2015, 18:27
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Country: Australia
Make: Nautica
Length: 6m +
Engine: Twin outboard
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Posts: 60
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Brig
Comments please, warts and all on the Ukraine built BRIG RIB. I have my own opinions and here in Australia they have a decent market share albeit through good marketing as "premium" and "Europe's number one RIB" which I would argue.
What is the real European opinion of them and why?
Thanks
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06 October 2015, 18:34
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Country: USA
Town: S. Carolina
Boat name: D560
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: 2016 Merc 115hp CT
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I've seen a lot of them along the US/Canadian border.
The build quality is on par with Chinese origin inflatables.
PVC = Not very UV stable material, mediocre quality adhesives with about a 4-7 year life expectancy, glued air-holding seams on their older boats
Hypalon/CSM = Very thin material, not very high quality (I've seen it degrade in to canvas-like topside feel in less than 10 years)
Fiberglass = Thin, lots of spiderweb crazing after a few years of use
Upholstery = Wood backer rots after a few years
Also, they use a generic Bravo valve assembly.
I'm not intentionally dumping on the brand, but this is what I've seen with the brand as they've came through for service.
You get what you pay for... if you want to buy cheap boats and dump them every few years like a Daewoo car, then it'd be okay.
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06 October 2015, 20:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
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Posts: 4,177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by office888
I've seen a lot of them along the US/Canadian border.
The build quality is on par with Chinese origin inflatables.
PVC = Not very UV stable material, mediocre quality adhesives with about a 4-7 year life expectancy, glued air-holding seams on their older boats
Hypalon/CSM = Very thin material, not very high quality (I've seen it degrade in to canvas-like topside feel in less than 10 years)
Fiberglass = Thin, lots of spiderweb crazing after a few years of use
Upholstery = Wood backer rots after a few years
Also, they use a generic Bravo valve assembly.
I'm not intentionally dumping on the brand, but this is what I've seen with the brand as they've came through for service.
You get what you pay for... if you want to buy cheap boats and dump them every few years like a Daewoo car, then it'd be okay.
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That about sums them up
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06 October 2015, 20:29
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Europe's number one rib... Interested to know the metric behind that? Unit sales would seem the most logical but if that is the case the must have loads in other parts of Europe.
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06 October 2015, 20:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
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Europe's No.1 guerrilla marketeers.
Bullshit marketing over substance.
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07 October 2015, 08:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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I wouldn't have one given
.....sh1t happens.......
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07 October 2015, 09:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Hysucat
Make: Hysucat
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin Suzuki 175's
MMSI: 235102645
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Are they priced according to the quality commented on above ?
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07 October 2015, 09:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick
That about sums them up
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Yep...sure does.
OK...Till.They Split!! Eh Mick
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07 October 2015, 09:28
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
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I dont have one but has anyone seen them fail? and if so what was the nature ofthe failure.
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07 October 2015, 10:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by two stroke mick
I dont have one but has anyone seen them fail? and if so what was the nature ofthe failure.
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Just for starters, plenty more where they came from
http://www.rib.net/forum/f8/brig-570...som-63672.html
http://www.rib.net/forum/f50/brig-he...tml#post654739
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07 October 2015, 11:50
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
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PD that is an fair reply to the question asked
TSM
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07 October 2015, 18:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
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Posts: 4,177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
X2
Yep...sure does.
OK...Till.They Split!! Eh Mick
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Yup Jonny went out in one in Ibiza this summer it was newish and was hanging in bits couldn't cope with the sea state mind you he said the same about a Boston whaler he was using as well
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07 October 2015, 19:02
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick
Yup Jonny went out in one in Ibiza this summer it was newish and was hanging in bits couldn't cope with the sea state mind you he said the same about a Boston whaler he was using as well
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That's the trouble when you're used to "Quality" RIB's like he is Mate
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07 October 2015, 21:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
That's the trouble when you're used to "Quality" RIB's like he is Mate
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He's out in a Pershing 60 tomorrow for a play and practice 😳😳
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07 October 2015, 21:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newbury
Boat name: Katarzyna
Make: Brig
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki 100
MMSI: 235118226
Join Date: Aug 2011
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You see a load of them in Europe though. All over Holland, Germany and Croatia.
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08 October 2015, 13:08
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Country: Australia
Make: Nautica
Length: 6m +
Engine: Twin outboard
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There are lots in Australia due to aggressive marketing and lack of availability of much else half decent.
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08 October 2015, 19:15
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Patch
due to aggressive marketing
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Sounds familiar!
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08 October 2015, 20:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick
He's out in a Pershing 60 tomorrow for a play and practice 😳😳
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Just Googled it Nice job!..Good Boy!!!
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