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14 December 2019, 20:42
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Built in tank
Hi folks,
New to the forum so hello all,
Im having an issue with my console tank, it needs removing for cleaning however it appears i need to remove the console!
This is where i ask if anybody has done this.
I cant see any fasteners etc to remove it from the hull so is it moulded ?
the boat is a tornado 6.6m
Thanks in advance
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14 December 2019, 20:59
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Hello Nigel welcome.
my ribquest had an internal lip to the console and was screwed through it with sealant between not easy to get off I did my seat bases had to use a multi tool to cut the sealant. Not sure how yours is secured someone will know more.
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15 December 2019, 08:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g
Hello Nigel welcome.
my ribquest had an internal lip to the console and was screwed through it with sealant between not easy to get off I did my seat bases had to use a multi tool to cut the sealant. Not sure how yours is secured someone will know more.
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Thanks Jeff,
Im hoping that's the case with mine but I cant see any seams, Ive a feeling its going to be a big job.
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15 December 2019, 10:02
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I don't know the layout of your boat but would it be easier to cut an access hole in the console and then an accesss hole in the top of the tank? The access hole in the console could be a permanent one sealed with a hatch or even a temporary one that is glassed back in. It's quite common in the ship world, albeit in steel.
Sod's law will dictate that you will remove the console, sort the tank out, replace the console and then the fuel pick up pipe will drop off necessitating the console being removed again so the tank can come out.
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15 December 2019, 11:32
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Get in touch with kraken ribs on here one of the guys is the son of the original tornado owner they will advise based in hull
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15 December 2019, 14:34
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Thanks Guyc, ill get in touch with the kraken ribs fella first but if it is a major job then putting an access cover in probably would be easier.
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15 December 2019, 14:35
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Cheers Jeff
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15 December 2019, 15:00
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When you say cleaning what have you got just debris or water or diesel bug?
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16 December 2019, 05:55
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Its debris Jeff, spent a whole day getting it out, being very inventive with my method, refilled and then the penny dropped, its a baffled tank and divided into two, doh!
Still sucking up rubbish, doesnt even get to filters, just clogs up the pick up pipe.
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16 December 2019, 09:20
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Originally Posted by nigelwright
Its debris Jeff, spent a whole day getting it out, being very inventive with my method, refilled and then the penny dropped, its a baffled tank and divided into two, doh!
Still sucking up rubbish, doesnt even get to filters, just clogs up the pick up pipe.
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OMO i would buy a 12v petrol pump about the £20 mark and some fuel line no pick up pipe filter with a fuel separator so the debris fall out and can be removed easy and pump the fuel back in the tank. saving all the faff, it might take awhile but worth doing.can you get over the baffle with the fuel line
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16 December 2019, 11:16
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I've done this on another tornado, cut right round the bottom of the console about 2" off the deck. You will then be left with a small upstand, fibreglass up from this and glass some backing nuts in, the console will then be bolted on and you can then do whatever you want with the tank on this occasion and in the future. Might sound a big job but if I were going to keep the boat, this is the route I would take
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16 December 2019, 11:46
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16 December 2019, 13:47
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Is there a fuel gauge sender screwed into the top of the tank? You can remove this to access tank (with the added joy of skinned knuckles) in the absence of an access plate.
I'd try siphoning out the contents several times with the widest hose possible before I'd start cutting. And then replace with new fuel lines through the boat to start fresh. (ethanol in petrol degrades older lines, which you probably know already)
The tank may be glassed into the floor, so you would have to cut it free, empty and then re-secure it...
Some pics with your phone from inside the console might give you an idea of the job if you're going to cut.
If you cut the console think about how you will make it leakproof again when re-fitting.
(I used to own an XS (essentially a Tornado) so my thoughts above are based on how that boat was set up.)
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16 December 2019, 18:34
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looks promising
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16 December 2019, 18:35
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i figured as much, she is a good sea boat so i reckon its worth the grief!
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16 December 2019, 18:41
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I think my replys are all over!lol
Taking everything into account as ive done the rapped knuckles through the fuel sender and i am a tad loathe to cut the console I am going to try that tank cleaner jeff linked too. nowt to loose apart from a few quid ( i have 3 boats so im used to that!!). Thanks chaps for the replys
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16 December 2019, 20:18
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Let us know if it works Nigel
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17 December 2019, 18:53
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is it petrol or diesel
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17 December 2019, 22:05
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The yacht boys (diesel) are quite into fuel polishers.
For them that's fairly simple. They don't have to worry about sparks.
Effectively they run a pipe from their tank through a water seperating filter and particle filter into a clean temporary tank or back to the original tank and recirculate.
They'd use bigger filters and usually ones you can clean crud out of yourself.
The pump for petrol will need to be a bit posher but otherwise why wouldn't it work?
https://forums.ybw.com/index.php?thr...4/post-6007329
But.. where is the contamination from? If the tank is disintegrating, you can polish as much as you want, but more bits will appear...
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18 December 2019, 09:04
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ASAP have a bit on fuel polishing on their website including the attached picture.
I'd be interested to know what the debris is.
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