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30 September 2009, 12:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
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Originally Posted by 9D280
Remember that people who are used to big engines will think anything with 25% (or 50% in JSP's case!) less power will SEEM slow & lethargic. I did my sportsboat course (at risk of showing my age!) with 60 Hp on an SR5.4, and it planed no problem with 4 or 5 aboard. (the other one planed with half of a twin 30Hp setup 4 up after someone forgot to put oil in one of the tanks- 30Hp on a 5.4 was properly slow, but it still planed - just!) No, a 60 won't be eye wateringly fast, but as you say, your crew may not appreciate 30 Knots on their first trip!
Also most engines around that size band should bolt straight in where the other one came out, so a later upgrade shouln't be too painful......
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You could be right there. I'm only going off the difference I found with 3 up instead of the normal 2.
Olly wood be a good person to speak too. He is full of praise for his 60hp on a 5.4 SR.
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30 September 2009, 12:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
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Originally Posted by Knot Yet
Good point 9D280 - and worth me remembering
Off to look this afternoon!!! - fingers crossed we come back with a new toy - bit worried that I'm doing the right thing but you've all helped push some of the worries away.
Apparently she has a couple of patches that were fixed during her commercial life - - I guess worse case scenario are new tubes - gulp!!
Take care
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The odd patch should be ok. I'd check if all the strake is glued down ok too.
If it's looks ok buy it. Ask him about the elephont speedo's though. And I hope you can haggle him down.
You'll love the searider
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30 September 2009, 12:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
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Oh and recoupe some of your money buy selling me the A frame
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30 September 2009, 13:08
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Member
Country: France
Town: Nantes
Boat name: A l'Attaque
Make: Sea-Way
Length: 6m +
Engine: Not here yet
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If you don't buy it, I might (taking the condition of the tubes into consideration).
JSP, how much are you willing to give for the A-Frame ?
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30 September 2009, 13:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
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Originally Posted by Pablo
If you don't buy it, I might (taking the condition of the tubes into consideration).
JSP, how much are you willing to give for the A-Frame ?
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It would depend where I had to pick it up from. PM me if you buy it
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30 September 2009, 17:51
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I don't know where the ad is and i'm not going to start looking for it if "Knot Yet" wants to buy the boat. I am a gentleman you know
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30 September 2009, 17:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo
I don't know where the ad is and i'm not going to start looking for it if "Knot Yet" wants to buy the boat. I am a gentleman you know
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Fair enough
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30 September 2009, 18:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: Horsham
Boat name: Knot a RIB
Make: Avon Typhoon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 25hp
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Well we are on the way back from viewing - minus the boat :-(
I'm currently thinking about it but concerns are as follows:
Transom split along top both sides and plywood inners look blown
Transom not straight it bulges half way between top and bottom
Tubes very tired and bubbling
Engine - no wee and what is dribbling out seems to have bits of black rubber in it
Can post some pictures when I get back, depending on the response here we might take up his offer of a reduced
Price under 3k
Thanks all
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30 September 2009, 18:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
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Originally Posted by Knot Yet
Well we are on the way back from viewing - minus the boat :-(
I'm currently thinking about it but concerns are as follows:
Transom split along top both sides and plywood inners look blown
Transom not straight it bulges half way between top and bottom
Tubes very tired and bubbling
Engine - no wee and what is dribbling out seems to have bits of black rubber in it
Can post some pictures when I get back, depending on the response here we might take up his offer of a reduced
Price under 3k
Thanks all
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I wouldn't touch it and that's a bad thing!
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30 September 2009, 18:21
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Town: Horsham
Boat name: Knot a RIB
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Engine: Yamaha 25hp
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Talking it through with hubby, he's not going to want it - so if anyone would like the details let me know
JSP - many thanks for the quick response, whilst its very hard to walk away - AS I WANT ONE!! - it's reassuring to know that we seem to have done the right thing - will post the pictures later for interest
Thanks again
Jean
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30 September 2009, 18:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
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It's the blown ply you can see in the transom that's the biggest turn off. That RIB is best left to someone who knows how to sort it. I wouldn't know where to start!
5.4SR's come up allot on the web, you'll get one soon
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30 September 2009, 18:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSP
I wouldn't touch it and that's a bad thing!
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Nor would I.
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30 September 2009, 18:34
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Knot Yet, you did the right thing by walking away.
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30 September 2009, 18:36
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Thanks Nos - whilst gutted I'm much happier now I know I've done the right thing - at the end of the day I want to enjoy the experience and part of that is being confident in the boat - not sure I'd have ever managed it in this one
Thanks all
J
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30 September 2009, 21:35
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Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
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I definitely wouldn't touch anything that JSP wouldn't touch
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30 September 2009, 21:58
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Country: UK - England
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
I definitely wouldn't touch anything that JSP wouldn't touch
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That's an out rage sir! Are you insinueataling that I would my standards are lower? That be Pandaous young dai!
How much would you give the guy for the A frame?
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30 September 2009, 22:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSP
How much would you give the guy for the A frame?
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Personally, I wouldn't want it - too much weight up there for my liking and if the boat were to tip over, then you'd need the engine, tanks, etc to be inversion-proofed, to get the full benefit of the self-righting gear.
I expect it's worth around £200-£250 if it's all working ok, £150-£200 if it's not and you're just getting a big chunky A-frame.
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30 September 2009, 22:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Personally, I wouldn't want it - too much weight up there for my liking and if the boat were to tip over, then you'd need the engine, tanks, etc to be inversion-proofed, to get the full benefit of the self-righting gear.
I expect it's worth around £200-£250 if it's all working ok, £150-£200 if it's not and you're just getting a big chunky A-frame.
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Not really interested in the self righting gear mate. Just a big chunk A frame!
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30 September 2009, 22:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSP
Not really interested in the self righting gear mate. Just a big chunk A frame!
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Remind me what the max transom weight of your SR5.4 is?
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30 September 2009, 22:18
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSP
Not really interested in the self righting gear mate. Just a big chunk A frame!
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Because with a 115 you don't have enough weight on the back?
Surely a seriously industrial looking a-frame would look odd sitting alongside your armitage shanks console?
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