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28 August 2009, 14:09
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cabin scorpion damage
I remember a very old thread about a scorpion cabin boat with soft nose having some sort of incident??!?!???
Anyone remember the thread or details of it??
Thanks
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28 August 2009, 14:22
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Think it was "before my time" but I found it when searching for something else. Possible Charles? and a trip to the Channel Islands? might help with searching.
--> Edit here you go: http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...ooded+scorpion
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28 August 2009, 15:09
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Bloody hell - never seen this before. Makes me wonder where the fierce loyality to all things Scorpion comes from.......
Has put me off a cabin rib - too much of a hole to hold water.
Interesting to note that mobile phones came in very handy!!!
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28 August 2009, 15:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Bloody hell - never seen this before. Makes me wonder where the fierce loyality to all things Scorpion comes from.......
Has put me off a cabin rib - too much of a hole to hold water.
Interesting to note that mobile phones came in very handy!!!
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Well the Tubes cane a drift on a Revenger on a trip back from Alderney
a RIB Int cruise if i remember it happens
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28 August 2009, 16:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Interesting to note that mobile phones came in very handy!!!
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My iphone is a total nightmare to use on a boat. The touch screen doesnt work when you have damp/wet fingers!
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28 August 2009, 16:43
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What can I say?
I'll have to rethink some of what I thought were pre-established pillars for the rib I am getting quotes for.
Thanks for posting guys.
I was not able to see the pictures, however. Just blanks next to Charles in some posts.
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28 August 2009, 18:27
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Does anyone remember what the route cause of the failure was?? Ive seen an older yellow cabin rib with a hard white nose!! Was this the modified and improved boat in this story?
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28 August 2009, 20:15
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Scorpion in question is still in Jersey and still going strong as far as I know
As for Charles haven't seen him round the harbour area for a long time!
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28 August 2009, 21:23
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In short i beleive the problem (flooding not tubes coming off) was caused by the INTERNAL valves on the early scorp's. I'm sure the new tubes, and all later boats have them fitted on the outside to avoid this.
Charles bought a hardboat (a fast one) but was still in Jersey last time i heard.
Scorpio was (is?) one serious peice of kit.
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29 August 2009, 08:43
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Originally Posted by Daniel
In short i beleive the problem (flooding not tubes coming off) was caused by the INTERNAL valves on the early scorp's. I'm sure the new tubes, and all later boats have them fitted on the outside to avoid this.
Charles bought a hardboat (a fast one) but was still in Jersey last time i heard.
Scorpio was (is?) one serious peice of kit.
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Not sure why you think the positioning of the valves would be to blame? The boats in question are now built with hard noses as the mass of the boat was too much for a soft nose in a decent sea - simple as that.
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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29 August 2009, 17:23
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pity those photos are not still on there, or if they are I can't see them-pics of flare going up, french helo lifeboat, and a very sad looking rib. Bril pictures considering the circumstances in which they were taken. From memory-cuddy flooded halfway across to CIs. Carried on, tubes ripped off back to somewhere around cockpit, leaving holes thru the fora'rd hull/cabin where valves had been placed thru the grp. Hard nose put on afterwards. I am sure someone will correct me if the memory has failed me but it was quite a sobering thread at the time, so it doesn't matter what you are in, s*** can always happen eh.
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29 August 2009, 22:48
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Here we go, in order, i think.
Cookie, i agree with you. Plus, you know more than me about it all!!
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29 August 2009, 22:51
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as i recall, that was the french SAR attempt.
then the RNLI turned up!
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29 August 2009, 23:43
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Cheers Daniel .. the pics help us later forum members see the situation
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30 August 2009, 01:44
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Here we go here we go here we go.....
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30 August 2009, 12:25
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Daniel had you saved the pics or are they still on here? Ive looked for them a few times but not managed to display them
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30 August 2009, 13:28
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i'm a rather sad photo cleptomaniac.
actually when charles was an active forum member and the intaweb was a new invention and we all had dialup modems I helped charles create a website and happened to still have an offline copy.
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30 August 2009, 13:38
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Hope I never have to see this in real life!
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30 August 2009, 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
Not sure why you think the positioning of the valves would be to blame? The boats in question are now built with hard noses as the mass of the boat was too much for a soft nose in a decent sea - simple as that.
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Cookee
From memory, and I may be wrong....
Because the valve for filling the tubes was on the inside this necessitated a hole between the cabin and the tube, i.e. a route for water to enter the cabin. Not sure if the tube parted company or the tube was torn but it exposed a weak point in the design which had already been corrected in later boats.
Cheers
Mark
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30 August 2009, 17:39
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What a frenchman?
Cheeky buggers charge for the service too.
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