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27 March 2009, 11:46
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Can a SR4 be left on a mooring
Hi,
After reading JSP's thread it got me thinking.
I'm getting an SR4 with an open flooding hull, will this be ok left on a mooring that drys out every tide or do I run the risk of osmosis from water sitting inside the hull?
Also it appears to have a drainer of some sort on the port side of the transom rather than a trunk, is this right?
Thanks
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27 March 2009, 13:29
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Chewy,
Osmosis shouldn't be a problem - remember the hull was designed to be wet in there.
What might be more of a problem is the scratch marks on your engine leg from the crabs & other assorted creatures that decided to crawl in when the tide was out & get flushed out as you open the throttle!
Transom drains / trunks are as variable as the people who fit them. From memory the floor will be below water level when afloat on a mooring (esp if you got a 60 on the back!!) so you'll either need an auto bilge pump or one of those nice reliable non return valves so it empties when the tide falls. Personally I would replace it with a trunk, then worst case you open it when you leave the mooring (and remember to wear wellies or a drysuit!)
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27 March 2009, 14:23
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A couple of SR4s live on the water near me - with trunk up & no pumps/ one way valves fitted. Yes they do fill up with water a bit , but if you are a little bit perceptive and can see that it has rained you go along & empy the thing out or drive it up/ down a bit & empty it.
Not sure whay the inside of the flooding chamber would end up like - full of seaweed maybe ?
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27 March 2009, 15:05
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What about it filling up with sand or will it self flush?
How much water can I expect on the deck if I leave the trunk down?
I've seen a photo of one of Tims SR5.4's and thats pretty full!
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27 March 2009, 15:17
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The deck filling up isn't to much of a worry for me as I can get to it most weeks or ask someone to go check. It's the inside of the hull fouling up that bothers me.
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27 March 2009, 15:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
What about it filling up with sand or will it self flush?
How much water can I expect on the deck if I leave the trunk down?
I've seen a photo of one of Tims SR5.4's and thats pretty full!
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I've had the hull bunged up with sand and it comes out no problem after a spin
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27 March 2009, 15:21
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The fouling of the inside of the hull could be cured by a liberal squirt of bleach or weed killer!
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27 March 2009, 15:24
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We have an sr4 in the sailing club with a mariner 40 on the back. She lies on a mooring in the harbour from apr to oct if the trunk gets left open she turns into a swimming pool now granted she never dries but inside hull stays fine . Never had any trouble with osmosis or anything like that . Hope this helps.
Cheers
Patches
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27 March 2009, 15:25
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There was a post on here a while ago about marine growth in a SR on a non drying mooring -Memory says the conclusion was that it wasn't a problem (presumably too dark for anything to live in?)
A quick search should find it.
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27 March 2009, 15:31
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I'll get a cover and fit an auto bilge pump to solve the water on the deck problem.
I'll see what happens regards fouling in the hull, I was going to block it but thinking about it it'd be better left open seen as its on a mooring.
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28 March 2009, 01:05
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my 5.4 lives on a mooring for 7- 8 months of the year (and a lot of 4.1s also in the neighbourhood). Just acid wash the hull a few times a year and no problem. I have not had any weed buildup inside the flooding hull at all over the last 3 years - only on the outside of the hull.
Ian
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28 March 2009, 01:54
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Thanks Walruz,
What acid do you use as I was going to antifoul it? I know I asked this when I first joined, sorry for the same question twice.
Thanks
Phill
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28 March 2009, 17:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
Thanks Walruz,
What acid do you use as I was going to antifoul it? I know I asked this when I first joined, sorry for the same question twice.
Thanks
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Hydrochloric Phill. It breaks down to salt and water. Around the islands it is used to keep the quays and steps free of weed. Dead easy to use as well - spray it on, leave for 30 secs then wipe off with a deck scrubber.
Ian
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29 March 2009, 09:52
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What strength/concentration is the acid?
Thanks
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29 March 2009, 16:54
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29 March 2009, 18:22
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Happy days!
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01 April 2009, 08:33
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Hi Chewy
The container says between 14 and 15 % concentrated.
Ian
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01 April 2009, 12:50
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My plan of attack is to antifoul the outside and spray the inside of the hull with HCL.
Thanks Walruz
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01 April 2009, 13:38
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I never have bothered with antifoul just spray the underside with the good old HCl about 3 - 4 times a year. This routine keeps the hull mostly clear. My mooring does dry out on most tides so it makes it easier to do.
Ian
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01 April 2009, 15:32
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I work away alot so antifoul is the best option. In theory I should be able to get down to spray it but I'm lazy sometimes.
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