Canarys

eupa · 27 November 2004, 22:16

I have just reurned from Grand Canaria- and thinking of shipping my RIB down there ( Cheap petrol, cheap booze..... BUT) - expensive moorings and expensive to ship it down via ferry from Cardiz.

I have been informed that you can ship it down via container ship on a trailer
for a modest fee. Anybody out there know which shipping company to contact?? and any advice about moorings???. It could be permament as when I left last Friday it was 27 degrees C, a light wind , calm sea- what more could a RIBBER need? - Just one negative no ADSL....

Jonathan

Neville · 27 November 2004, 22:55

There are millions of freight forwarders that will do the job, Peters & May spring to mind as they move alot of boats. For price and reliability we have started using a big outfit called Panalpina. They have an office in nearly every city around the world. Try www.panalpina.com .

Remember that a container is 2.3 m wide , so if its wider with its tubes down you will have to use a 'flat rack' which will allow it to hang out over the side. You will get charged accordingly.

Also If putting it in to a container, you will need to drive it to the nearest loading ramp to put it in - an easy process.

Either company will also be able to quote for roll on roll off freight which means that the trailer is simply driven on to the boat and no container is used - sometimes an expensive option.

eupa · 28 November 2004, 12:30

Thanks Nerville.

jonahan

Zippy · 29 November 2004, 12:39

Peters and May have an very reliable agent in Belgium and frequently move boats from mainland europe to locations world wide.

Grand Canaria is a major hub port for most of the major shipping lines so would think you would get it there cheaper that by trailer. as Neville points out, if you cant fit it in a container then a flat rack is the way forward but to be honest, i would be a little reluctant to send mine out there on one. too much risk of damage to an inflatable open boat ike a rib.

Also look at the Roll on Roll off services to those destinations.

not that im bias or anything because i work for them but give the guys in the office a call. if they cant help you they will at least do their best to point you in the right direcion.

www.petersandmay.com

thanks
Howard.

eupa · 29 November 2004, 17:06

Howard- thanks- It may just fit in a 40' container - but have a problem as it about 3.50 high on the trailer. there is only one ferry service and thats Transmed from Cadiz ,Say good by to nearly 3000 euros ( tow vehicle + trailer+passenger). Mind you what price fun??

jonathan

Zippy · 29 November 2004, 17:25

Thats pretty high! even a high cube container has a max internal hight of 9'6 (slightly less for the door)

Any chance you can unbolt the a frame to reduce the air draguht? i remember seeing a pretty big rib in the warehouse last week that came out of a 40'.

Failing that a RORO service might be the cheaper option.

hope you find a solution and dont hesitate to talk with Peters and May. Think Craig is the man on that service and although he comes from Newcastle he is a top guy!

Neville · 29 November 2004, 17:43

I presume that it would fit in if you took the a frame off. I think that we paid less than 1000 euros to have a 40 ft box shipped to the med from scotland last year so bargain on that amount. Its a shame that you need to take the car over aswell because i dont see it fitting in the container with the boat.

We are a bit cheap in Scotland, if it were me i would be sending the wife & children over in the container too..

bogib · 29 November 2004, 17:46

We use Kuehne & Nagel a lot out of Barcelona to Luxembourg, their website is www.kuehne-nagel.com

Bogi

eupa · 29 November 2004, 18:15

Thanks everbody- the height is due to the cabin and there is +a high mast for GPS and Radar. Its all bolted together- mast can come off easilly and that gets me down to an over-all height of 2.6. But I dont want to take the cabin off as then have to take all the wiring and controls out.

Jonathan

Zippy · 29 November 2004, 18:19

Overall Hight of 2.6. is that meters?

By my calculation that works out at 8.58 feet. dont think you would get that in a standard container but should fit in a High Cube without too many problems. (width permitting of course)

eupa · 29 November 2004, 18:44

Thanks Zippy. Yes meters. By the way happy with your BWM?
jonathan

Zippy · 29 November 2004, 19:17

No problem Jonathan,

Im very pleased with my BWM. only had it a few months (bought second hand) but aside from a few teething problems it has been great.

its a little bit wet in bigger seas but i would expct that from any 5 meter boat. im trying to get some history on her but its proving a little difficult. i know she was built circa 1995 but thats about it!

i see yours is a biggen! do you have any pictures?

eupa · 29 November 2004, 19:30

go to my info sheet and click on "threads started by EUPA" - see "my rib" . Photo a bit small but you should be OK. Nice little problem we had.....
BWM was run by Paul Lemmer. He seems to turn up now and again. The rib is sitting at home at the moment and am doing "her" up.

Jonathan

Pete7 · 29 November 2004, 21:16

E3000 would buy a lot of petrol, my atlas suggests its about 600 miles by sea, how big are your fuel tanks, (says I, sitting comfortably in my arm chair)

Hasn't someone just done this trip in reverse with a 7.5m valiant ?

Pete

EdwardH · 30 November 2004, 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete7

E3000 would buy a lot of petrol, my atlas suggests its about 600 miles by sea, how big are your fuel tanks, (says I, sitting comfortably in my arm chair)

Hasn't someone just done this trip in reverse with a 7.5m valiant ?

Pete

My thoughts exactly... Eupa - you have a big cabin rib... this would be a great adventure... (although I admit there are a few 'dodgy' ports en route)

eupa · 30 November 2004, 07:25

thanks fellas but...... I WANT TO LIVE A BIT LONGER

2*60 gallons - about 350 miles worth. Yes thats the problem a few dodgy ports to say the least. I would have to take my wife with me , and could use her as collateral if we were hijacked. She is a blond and the Arabs love blonds.
But she is also a hot "belge" and would'nt last more than 24 hours in a harem.
as she does'nt take to being told what to do. But I have updated my Mapsource files for the Garmin 2010c.... just in case..

jonathan

Pete7 · 30 November 2004, 09:13

Eupa, we have exactly the same problems with girls in southern England, what you need is a nice Lancashire lass who knows her place is in the kitchen.

Pete

{flak jacket on for when Lou reads this}

petmay · 08 February 2005, 13:19

Ha - Howard. Fancy meeting you in here. Thanks for the ref...
Stumbled in here from a general surf.
Best way to canaries is RoRo to Las Palmas. Not wonderfully regular buit cheaper than in a box and you don't need to deflate or dismantle - should be on a trailer though.
Yes, we at Peters and May can do this no problems!

Louise · 08 February 2005, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete7

Eupa, we have exactly the same problems with girls in southern England, what you need is a nice Lancashire lass who knows her place is in the kitchen.

Pete

{flak jacket on for when Lou reads this}

Just seen this Pete, you naughty boy! Actually, I've found that quite the opposite works for me - I got myself a nice Lancashire lad who knows his place is out at work!

Not that I'm suggesting Eupa needs a Lancashire lad, mind you...

Edit: although if he does fancy one, that's fine too, as long as it's not MY Lancashire lad that he fancies!

Pete7 · 08 February 2005, 14:39

To Peters and May welcome aboard

To Lou,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louise

Just seen this Pete, you naughty boy!

Yes Miss, so did you have a cane when you were a teacher? and did they call you Miss Whiplash ?

Pete