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05 June 2020, 19:21
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Carbon Tubes
Hi all,
I’m sending my rib in for her retube and I’m torn between black fabric impression and black carbon effect.
Unfortunately I can’t find a rib where I live that has carbon effect so I can’t see how it looks compared to fabric impression.
Has anyone one the forum here got carbon effect tubes or if not would you suggest sticking with impression or going for the upgrade to carbon?
Thanks in advance
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05 June 2020, 19:37
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We went for the carbon effect, a little more expensive over standard hypalon ( think it was an extra grand ) but they look great, also worn very well. I’d spec pressure relief valves if you have black - they do get warm in the sun
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05 June 2020, 19:50
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Thanks Lee. Did you opt for wear patches or is the heavier duty hypalon (866 I think) mean there is no need.
I’ve asked for opvs but to be honest I thought they would of been standard. Also with regards to heat, do they get too hot or once your under way they cool down?
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05 June 2020, 20:36
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If you’re going for fabric impression, I hope you enjoy cleaning tubes[emoji6]
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05 June 2020, 20:51
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Yeh I’ve heard that. Is carbon any better then?
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05 June 2020, 21:17
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
If you’re going for fabric impression, I hope you enjoy cleaning tubes[emoji6]
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,,,, a well known Northern retube specialist told me the secrets about fabric impression hypalon ,,,, don't ,,, and if you do, be prepared to buy new tubes soon lol ,,,
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05 June 2020, 21:40
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,,,, a well known Northern retube specialist told me the secrets about fabric impression hypalon ,,,, don't ,,, and if you do, be prepared to buy new tubes soon lol ,,,
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Carbon impression tubes were on my original spec for Black Pig, the reaction from Jason at Ribcraft was “really”? I soon changed my mind[emoji1]
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05 June 2020, 21:46
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Thanks all.
Appreciated the responses but it really doesn’t help me!!!! Lol
Apart from the cleaning issues of impression fabric which I get what’s the reason behind not looking at carbon?
Is it longevity, is it hard upkeep or is it just a fad and they don’t last. It’s defo not making it easy for me to decide, that’s for sure!!!! Lol
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05 June 2020, 21:48
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Originally Posted by Chanchan168
Yeh I’ve heard that. Is carbon any better then?
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Tubes are difficult enough to keep clean at the best of times. Bird sh1t, mackerel blood & guts all stick to smooth shiny 303 treated tubes. Any surface that offers a key will be a bigger pita to keep clean.
You pays your money & takes your choice.
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05 June 2020, 21:57
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Originally Posted by Chanchan168
Thanks Lee. Did you opt for wear patches or is the heavier duty hypalon (866 I think) mean there is no need.
I’ve asked for opvs but to be honest I thought they would of been standard. Also with regards to heat, do they get too hot or once your under way they cool down?
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No wear patches, just factory tubes all the way from Italboats.
The tubes never get too hot to touch, warm in the sun when anchored up which the kids love - when they get back onboard after swimming the heat from the tubes soon dies them out
The pressure relief valves will vent on the 1 or 2 exceptionally hot days of the British summer, that’s if I haven’t clocked the forecast in advance and let a little air out.
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05 June 2020, 22:01
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Thanks pikey Dave and lee.
Makes sense, just want sure if it was an inferior material compared to normal hypalon. Lee, Thanks for your comments too.
Appreciated
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05 June 2020, 22:12
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heat from the tubes soon dies them out
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Should we be concerned?
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05 June 2020, 22:35
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Should we be concerned?
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Probably, but what specifically is worrying you.......... 🤣🤣
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05 June 2020, 22:55
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Nothing...not my kids
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05 June 2020, 23:11
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Nothing...not my kids
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They don’t do too bad, as a responsible adult 🤪 we always do a head count when we get back to our home berth........it’s normally right 😂😂
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