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Old 22 April 2021, 11:11   #1
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CE Certification for a RIBTEC needed

Hello,
i have a 7,15 m inflatable from Ribtec build in 2002. The engine broke down and i put an new Suzuki 300 hp outboard. Now the Greek port police want an CE certification from the boat to change the engine in the papers. Does anybody have this CE certification?
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Old 22 April 2021, 11:20   #2
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Ribeye bought Ribtec in 2001. Might be worth asking Ribeye if they can help.

https://www.ribeye.co.uk/

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Old 22 April 2021, 11:23   #3
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I phoned them already. They told me that they just keep the papers for 6 years so no more papers for my Rib from 2002
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Old 22 April 2021, 11:34   #4
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Hello,
i have a 7,15 m inflatable from Ribtec build in 2002. The engine broke down and i put an new Suzuki 300 hp outboard. Now the Greek port police want an CE certification from the boat to change the engine in the papers. Does anybody have this CE certification?
Thanks
Joe
Are they looking for the original docs (which really you should have, but the plate on the transom is enough for most people) or is this because the rules changed recently and if you make a substantial modification it needs re-certified? Either way, it should be unique to your boat and refer to your HIN so even if someone else has a near-identical boat their CE paperwork will not survive scrutiny from any official who is actually digging into this.
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Old 23 April 2021, 07:03   #5
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Hello Poly,
Thanks for your answer.
I bought the boat 3rd hand with the Greek port police papers.
The prei owners did not give me an CE certification.
Also the port police should have a copy from the first registration but they do not. So what can i do now? Bin the boat?
Hope somebody has an idea.
Thanks for any help.
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Old 23 April 2021, 09:44   #6
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I'm not sure you'll get a good answer here - this level of scrutiny is not something we get in the UK and almost everyone here is either in the UK (or US, Aus, etc where the RCD does not apply). Possible solutions:

1. Trace back the previous owners chain until someone happens to have a copy in their files - probably with some financial incentive for the finder(s). Would it have been bought through a greek dealer? It may be they can help?
2. Pay a specialist to survey the boat and provide a declaration of conformity- just as though it was an import from outside the EU. Likely to cost €€€€€. Presumably someone is doing this for "major modifications" which now require reassessed (depending how big your engine change was it could be argued a major modification and you might be killing two birds with one stone).
3. Discuss with the port police how this usually gets resolved - feels like there must be lots of boats where the paperwork gets lost. Many of those manufacturers from the late 90's early 2000's are probably no longer in business. Perhaps there is something like a surveyors report.
4. Consider selling the boat to a market less obsessed with paperwork and buy something with the paper trail. I'm not sure which EU countries that works with, but barring the import/vat/duty headaches - a Ribeye in the UK will sell well (in good condition) regardless of its paper trail.

There may well be other things you could do with photoshop - but I've never been in a greek prison so can't comment on the quality of those suggestions!
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Old 23 April 2021, 11:29   #7
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Wow Poly, that was fast and a lot good suggestions.
Thanks for that.
No chance to find the previous owners. They left the Island and the last one is somewhere in the Caribbean.

On the Transom plate is standing Maximum recommended engine H.P. NA but the port police want there papers.
I like your idea with photoshop but have no sample. For sure the Greek prison is no place you want to be.
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Old 23 April 2021, 14:07   #8
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