Chaining up

[The Jackeens]

Originally Posted by jwalker

If my boat goes missing, you folks'll be in deep shit......

Not much danger of that jw

The peacocks would have 'em for a start!

Us

[Jimbo]

Originally Posted by Tim M

I bought one of those cheap £50 2-stroke jobbies on ebay. Brand new never had any troubles with it and it must have done 100 hours now. Produces upto 950w and thats more than enough to run my grinder (which if i recall is 550w).

eBay it is then! Cheers Tim for helping me assemble the tools so I can go nick your boat

This discussion seems to have focused mainly on chains, what about padlocks? Presumeably there is no point having a sooper dooper chain if the padlock is a christmas cracker job. I've put master padlocks on the 2 boats I've done security for, good or bad?

[eupa]

Going off thread ever so slightly - what sort of cost is a portable generator

All types and all costs. First of all settle for the power you want.
Then ask your self do i need a quiet one or a noisy one. Honda do a very quite 4 stroke - but much more expensive than a Briggs & Stratton.Mine cost me about 200 quid 3 years ago. Weighs about 40 kgs. and you can just about slug it around

Jonathan

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

How about one of these and one of these?

Total outlay about half the price of the cordless grinder!

John

I like your thinking and that is the operative word ‘thinking’ most thieves wouldn’t thieve if they had the brains to do something else….. what they would do is set up a government and thieve us leagally via our income tax

PS the inverter is only really 400w so might struggle If you want a real P22 type gringer you want one of These

[roycruse]

Originally Posted by eupa

How about...let me see..... fat chance. I only apologise when I make a mistake... and believe me I will apologise... just ask Eups..... however I certainly won't accept a lecture on Ribnet “etiquette” from you.....


Jimbo - I think everything gets carried a bit too far in these disscusions.
I had the pleasure of meeting Jono some time ago and a more pleasant and entertaining person you could not hope to meet.

I dont know why people become so aggressive on this site.I think we should all stand back a bit sometimes and cool down. I have been on this site for over a year now and have had immense pleasure , learnt alot and still learning. I have found the best way to treat Codders is not contradiction but
kindness and generosity. He even might come out on my rib....

Jonathan

at what point you become so concerned about the feelings and emotional wellbeing of people on this forum - first time i came accross you on this forum you launched an attack on me telling me i was bald and needed to go to weight watchers. (which i probably do - but thats besides the point).

[eupa]

Originally Posted by Scary Des

I like your thinking and that is the operative word ‘thinking’ most thieves wouldn’t thieve if they had the brains to do something else….. what they would do is set up a government and thieve us leagally via our income tax

PS the inverter is only really 400w so might struggle If you want a real P22 type gringer you want one of These

Whoa, whoa. - I dont think you can use an electric motor on an inverter!!!!!!!
you blow the diodes

Jonathan

[Jimbo]

Originally Posted by eupa

Going off thread ever so slightly - what sort of cost is a portable generator

All types and all costs. First of all settle for the power you want.
Then ask your self do i need a quiet one or a noisy one. Honda do a very quite 4 stroke - but much more expensive than a Briggs & Stratton.Mine cost me about 200 quid 3 years ago. Weighs about 40 kgs. and you can just about slug it around

Jonathan

What's reliability like on your honda? I'll do an ebay search and most likely end up buying whatever looks like a bargain, so it's all fairly academic anyway...

I'd still like to hear opinions on padlocks too

[Tim M]

I was talking to the bloke at Calshot about secruity the other day. As he pointed out, most of the people that knick big boats like RIBs are profestional criminals who know what they are doing. If they intend to knick your boat they will. There was that case about a year ago when all those jet-skis got knicked from a yard - they used a lorry with a hi-ab to lift them still on their trailers.

The main advantage I can see from using beefy looking chains and locks is that its going to put any prospective theif off trying to knick it in the first place.

[eupa]

What's reliability like on your honda

Cant beat it. First pull and off you go. Like everything they do - its invarably first class- but you pay the price. Its like SONY-they dont have bad products.
If only Rover hadnt done the dirty on Honda??? ( come on Codders!)
Padlocks ?what's that ? they dont knick things where I live. Did you know that in Toronto very few people lock their houses??

Jonathan

[Jono]

Originally Posted by jwalker

If my boat goes missing, you folks'll be in deep shit......

Naah... nobody with a big enough "truck" to haul your RIB away.......Ooo... hang on... look what I've found in my shed.... now where's my angle grinder?

[Jimbo]

Originally Posted by eupa

Padlocks ?what's that ?

Where is it exactly you keep your boat

Looks like if money stretches the honda it is. Don't like their outboards (Although am well aware i'm in a minority there!) but if a genny is up on eBay, will snap it up.

Somebody must be able to explain about the best padlocks, who was it was talking about freezing them then hammering them? Come on, spill the beans, which padlocks are bad, which are the best?

[eupa]

at what point you become so concerned about the feelings and emotional wellbeing of people on this forum - first time i came accross you on this forum you launched an attack on me telling me i was bald and needed to go to weight watchers. (which i probably do - but thats besides the point).

It was YOU that did it.... yes I was out of order. When I needed help on my GPS YOU helped me... that's what I call in my book as being
great- so I am now a reformed character.

Jonathan

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by eupa

Whoa, whoa. - I dont think you can use an electric motor on an inverter!!!!!!!
you blow the diodes

Jonathan

No you wont - mine works fine on my 2000w invertor - £150 off EBAY - now plumbed into my Landie so 240v wherever I go - only trouble is it draws nearly 200 amps flat out!!!

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Scary Des

You missed point Jimbo
I, like a few others, take Codders to task when he posts advice on threads started or viewed by people that don’t know him and think that his opinion is reliable
My real worry is that someone actually takes a bit of his advice Take this thread as an example, he is telling people that a £10 chain could not be bolt cropped ....complete coddler.... and anyone take that advice would regret it so hopefully by challenging him people can see that it is not all black and white as often portrayed in his posts. Des

I NEVER sy things are black and white - one of my pet hates - the world is full of grey areas!!!

Take £10 chains for example - some of them are crap but SOME of them are ok.

I don't think Oxford would be too impressed with people saying their cheaper chains are total shit and I don't think Thatcham would have given them a certificate if they were!!!

Obviously the more you pay the better it gets but as even SOME cheapies CAN withstand bolt croppers why pay more if all you want to do is deter???

And by the way the bolt croppers I have are the Record 4ft ones(NOT 5 as I said earlier)

http://www.tool-up.co.uk/shop/diy/RE...ml?id=VkoznjK5

They will only cut up to 12.7mm anyway and they are FAR bigger and more xpensive than the ones most people have - I had them cheap in an auction with a load of other junk - the bolt croppers were new and unused though!!!

[Jono]

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Somebody must be able to explain about the best padlocks, who was it was talking about freezing them then hammering them? Come on, spill the beans, which padlocks are bad, which are the best?

I use some old Ingersoll locks on my factory. They are "virtually impregnable" as the shackle is completely surrounded when in use...... but...... no padlock is 100% safe. To vastly increase their effectiveness, it's best to shroud them if you can or at the very least position them where it's difficult to access them.....

That having being said.. a few years ago some toe-rags took my bike, chain padlock ground anchor and all.......

[tim griffin]

Originally Posted by tcwozere

I thought East Cowes did that to stop someone nicking the cleat Tim..

Nice one made me smile

[Nos4r2]

If you want to lower your insurance and they offer discounts for it, buy a thatcham approved lock/chain.

If you really want a good chain to stop theft then sod thatcham approved bike chains, buy a decent quality A4 stainless one with thick links and stick the thatcham approved lock on it.

A4 Stainless doesn't freeze/shatter as easily, isn't going to leave rusty marks on anything, and takes as long to cut with a grinder as the good thatcham approved chains.

It also can't be cut with an oxy-acetylene kit-you have to melt it rather than cut it and that takes a lot longer.

And dump the lock in a tub of melted grease before you use it...

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by Jimbo

Where is it exactly you keep your boat
Somebody must be able to explain about the best padlocks, who was it was talking about freezing them then hammering them? Come on, spill the beans, which padlocks are bad, which are the best?

Ride magazine (motorcycles for those under forty ) did a test a couple of years ago. From them all the £7 Halfords took the most abuse before giving up the ghost, they only put it in the test as a "control"

As Jono points out Ingersol are pretty tough ones too, we used them to lock up ammunition and small arms.

Pete

[roycruse]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

And dump the lock in a tub of melted grease before you use it...

what a good idea thanks - sure beats trying to force it in with a grease gun, which is what ive been doing

[Nos4r2]

Just remember not to use high melting point grease....