Changing engine yamaha to suzuki

[AVRibber]

Hi, I have a 60 HP yamaha for the moment, ( with the yamaha side remote control, and tacho en speedo meter).
But now I'm thinking of buying a new Suzuki DF 90 . But I don't know if there are some parts I can re use ore not.

1. the remote controle , for a suzuki , may it be may yamaha remote controle or should it be from suzuki ?

2. The holes at the back of the boat for the engine bolts. will those fixation holes of my yamaha match with those for a suzuki? or should fill them up and redrill the holes for a suzuki ?

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Thanks

[Crusher]

Not 100% (and someone will come along and correct me if I'm wrong) but I think if u are buying a new Suzy from a dealer it includes new remotes.

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[elliott0446]

With the Suzuki you will get new controls and gauges.

[AVRibber]

So the gauges and remote control are included with a new engine.

And my connection for a baystar steering system ( hydraulic) will that still fit ?

[diverbert]

normally it will fit on your steering and the holes can fit to.
i just replaced a mecr 60hp for a 90suzi and yes all the thins came with it.

lots of fun with your Suzi

grtz
bert

[Vandad]

Check if you have to repair your transom so you can drill holes for Suzuki????

Possibly, you may be able to use the same holes if you buy a Yamaha??

Download their User Manuals from the web and see the dimensions.

[Poly]

As I understand it:

(1) Outboard engine bolt patterns are standard so it should be a straight swap.

(2) The remotes would work (not sure if the cable ends are the same?) but as others have said probably included "free" with a new engine.

[9D280]

Yep, bolt holes for that sort of a swap will be identical. I helped a friend swap from a 50 to a 90, and used the same holes. I've also gone Yam - Merc without the aid of a drill.

As for the remotes, unless the Suzi is "fly by wire" then you could keep the throttle / gear cables, but will likely need to change the fittings on the engine end (see below). If it's "fly by wire, just remove the mechanical cables with the old engine. (All these single lever boxes have the same mechanism inside, so not likely to need to change the fittings on the helm end).

The engine end connectors should come with the engine kit - you won't get the actual throttle / gear cables as they don't know how far your engine will be from the helm, so they kind of assume you will buy to suit your boat. As for the wiring, it is ridiculously long (and comes with extension kits) so you just need to coil up the excess & hide it somewhere).

[elliott0446]

Suzuki 90 is not Fly by wire, you are best to replace the control box with the one that comes with the Suzuki as the connections for the electrics in the control box are different.

[SeaStar Steering]

Originally Posted by AVRibber

So the gauges and remote control are included with a new engine.

And my connection for a baystar steering system ( hydraulic) will that still fit ?

hey - your BayStar should mount right onto the engine with no modifications, however. I recommend that before you take the new engine out for a run, be sure to check the following with regards to the steering

* ensure that there is no interference with any other object on board (fuel lines, shift cables..etc...)
* ensure that the wheel is smooth to turn hard over to hard over. Pay special attention when the engine cuts across the center position as if there is a binding issue, it will be felt in this area.

If you feel nothing but smooth steering and you are not banging into anything, go and enjoy your new Suzuki

cheers
marc

[9D280]

Originally Posted by elliott0446

Suzuki 90 is not Fly by wire, you are best to replace the control box with the one that comes with the Suzuki as the connections for the electrics in the control box are different.

I maybe didn't write that too clearly....

I just meant keep the bowden cables between the remotes & the engine, not the whole control box...



To clarify: The mechanical innards of most remotes boxes are identical, just the outer casing & lever is re-styled by the OEM. The electrics are engine specific, so unless you are good with a soldering iron, best to just swap the box.

The mechanical cables (throttle & gear) can be swapped between OEMs and aftermarket. There are a couple of types for engines of that size, but end fittingsa re pretty universal fitting to the cables, so if you have the correct end fitting kits (between £5- £15 depending on your engine for aftermarket ones). the chanes are the fittings that have come with your new engine will go straight onto your old cables.

Hopefully that makes more sense.