Choices, choices

jonmitch · 05 April 2006, 23:39

Well my search continues. Am aiming to see the following in the next few days. Thoughts please. Wants- cruising, some off shore capability, good hull, reliability, go to the scillies(?)

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F94747/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F94764/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/JAY293/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/LYM015/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/JBT089/

Cheers RIBers

Jon

Richard B · 05 April 2006, 23:48

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Originally Posted by jonmitch

Thoughts please. Wants- cruising, some off shore capability, good hull, reliability, go to the scillies(?)

I'd carry on searching. None of those have true "offshore capability".

Alan · 05 April 2006, 23:54

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Originally Posted by jonmitch

Well my search continues. Am aiming to see the following in the next few days. Thoughts please. Wants- cruising, some off shore capability, good hull, reliability, go to the scillies(?)

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F94747/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F94764/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/JAY293/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/LYM015/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/JBT089/

Cheers RIBers

Jon

Depends what you are after but I would not call ANY of these a particularly good offshore RIB. Cant see a pic of the Zod 650 but the rest all have Bench seats. Nice for calm water, absolutely bloody useless in any chop. On a small rib with a bench seat you will give yourself backache in any sea!

The Yamaha is actually made by Valiant I believe. The Selva is a waste of time looking at - search for more on this topic, they are very badly balanced RIBs. The Ribeye is a nice deep V but again with bench seats.

Keep looking. Suggest for the offshore part of your reqts you look at Ribcraft, Avon 620, Solent, Parker, Osprey, Scorpion etc etc.

ADS · 05 April 2006, 23:57

Have to agree with Mr B they are all abit leisure orientated, nothing wrong with that, all though they are not and never will be offshore cruisers.
If it was me I would be thinking Ribcraft 585.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F95064 very similar to Roy's Voyager.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F92888 maybe a little underpowered....

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/RFT046 Belongs to Robin who posts on here, its yellow!

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F88254

Theres 5 or 6 on Boatsandoutboards, sea trial a Ribcraft 5.85m and then a Zodiac/ Selva/ Ribeye, and then post some photos of your new Ribcraft

regards,

Alex

EDIT: agree with Alan r.e bench seats

The ribeye is probably the pick of the bunch you posted. Valiants aren't bad but go for the patrol not the vangaurd range,

codprawn · 06 April 2006, 03:03

I don't think a bench is a problem at the back.

Richard B · 06 April 2006, 08:20

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Originally Posted by codprawn

I don't think a bench is a problem at the back.

Sure... depends what you want though. On a RIB under ~8m they can be a bit iffy in rough weather at speed though. Sitting at the back is the wettest place on a RIB, and so it can become difficult to hold on! Best ones are the wraparound ones combined with a rear engine well like on Ashleyd's "Scoobydoo" http://www.scorpionribs.com/8.1m.html. As we have an ordinary rear bench, we only consider our RIB to be a 4 seater in a rough sea, and a 6/7 seater in good weather.

That's a good selection of Ribcrafts that ADS has found. I fear that the best value one (F88254) may have already be sold as it looks like Ribald's "Pendragon". May be worth dropping him a PM in case the sale fell through? http://www.rib.net/forum/member.php?u=201

The Ribcraft 585 is certainly one of the better RIBs in the 6m class, light years ahead of Yam, Valiant and Selva. My personal preference would be Osprey. If I were in your shoes I would beg, steal, borrow or save up another £5k and have a look at this: http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13800.

Milan · 06 April 2006, 08:49

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Originally Posted by Richard B

Sure... depends what you want though. On a RIB under ~8m they can be a bit iffy in rough weather at speed though. Sitting at the back is the wettest place on a RIB, and so it can become difficult to hold on! Best ones are the wraparound ones combined with a rear engine well like on Ashleyd's "Scoobydoo" http://www.scorpionribs.com/8.1m.html. As we have an ordinary rear bench, we only consider our RIB to be a 4 seater in a rough sea, and a 6/7 seater in good weather.

That's a good selection of Ribcrafts that ADS has found. I fear that the best value one (F88254) may have already be sold as it looks like Ribald's "Pendragon". May be worth dropping him a PM in case the sale fell through? http://www.rib.net/forum/member.php?u=201

The Ribcraft 585 is certainly one of the better RIBs in the 6m class, light years ahead of Yam, Valiant and Selva. My personal preference would be Osprey. If I were in your shoes I would beg, steal, borrow or save up another £5k and have a look at this: http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13800.

Absolutely agree with Richard I have personally seen that Rib in action and its in excellent condition well capable of handling the rough stuff you could always make them an offer but the difference 5k can make will pay of in the long run

Andre · 06 April 2006, 08:55

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Originally Posted by jonmitch

Well my search continues. Am aiming to see the following in the next few days. Thoughts please. Wants- cruising, some off shore capability, good hull, reliability, go to the scillies(?)

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F94747/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F94764/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/JAY293/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/LYM015/
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/JBT089/

Cheers RIBers

Jon

Jon

see Ribs for Sale and look up my demo Parker 630 Diesel , now available for sale . My first one I took down as far as St Malo, Cherbourg and survived F5 to Weymouth, the current one is the best of the 3
Ideal family cruising rib

Andre

John Kennett · 06 April 2006, 08:58

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Originally Posted by jonmitch

Thoughts please. Wants- cruising, some off shore capability, good hull, reliability, go to the scillies(?)

If you were only after a RIB for some inshore, good weather blasting around then any of your choice would be fine. However, like the others have said, those boats don't match what you say you want. I wouldn't want to go offshore in any of them.

If you can stretch your budget a bit, then a Ribcraft 585 will suit you very well. I wouldn't chose one with less than 90hp on it, but if the price is right you could go with the 75hp and plan to change the engine at some point in the future. For £15k I'd chose an underpowered Ribcraft over any of your short list.

An Osprey would do you well, or you might be able to find a Ribtec to suit. One of the deep V Humbers would give you a lot of capability for the money, if not the best finish. The others suggested by Alan would all be worth considering too.

Good luck!

John

BogMonster · 06 April 2006, 11:19

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Originally Posted by John Kennett

One of the deep V Humbers would give you a lot of capability for the money, if not the best finish.

Well I don't know anything much about the subject but as a newcomer I have to say on several occasions when I have been out in my Destroyer when quite windy, I have suddenly found myself heading towards a fair sized bump in the water with rather too much speed on, thought to myself "this is really gonna hurt" and it has hardly noticed it

66kt gust of wind here last night apparently but that is probably a bit TOO breezy

roycruse · 06 April 2006, 11:46

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Originally Posted by codprawn

I don't think a bench is a problem at the back.

Personally I prefer the standing room at the back - I think having handholds at the back of the jockeys and leaving enough room to stand there is the best layout.

If I'm letting someone else drive my RIB that's where I go.

Alan · 06 April 2006, 12:28

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Originally Posted by codprawn

I don't think a bench is a problem at the back.

A bench seat is OK in small boats and calm conditions. But on the size boats the OP references they are no use at all if you are going out in any sea.On a larger RIB such as your prosport a bench right at the stern, will still be tolerable in mild conditions, but thats a function of boat length and weight. They are no substitute for a good jockey seat though. A jockey gives lateral stability plus the ability to absorb shocks with your legs not your butt or lower spine.

FWIW the only boat I've been on where a bench seat was comfortable in the rough was Brian's Cyanide, all 9.5M of heavy diesel powered cabin RIB. It was a good place to catch some shuteye on the RB4 trip and became known to all and sundry as 'the executive lounge!'

Richard B · 06 April 2006, 13:51

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Originally Posted by roycruse

Personally I prefer the standing room at the back...

Roy, you can still "assume the position" with a bench seat behind you, and you get a lot more storage space too!

Agree that having someting to hold on to is good... we have pipe lagging tied to ours otherwise your hands get really cold on a long passage!

jonmitch · 06 April 2006, 19:16

Bloody hell guys! Do you all work for ribcraft?

Since I came onthis forum my "budget" has already crept up from 10000 to 15000! Will it ever end?

What about these two? (no, they're not ribcraft)

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/LYM006/

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/JBT180/

Be nice to me. I'm new to this lark!

John Kennett · 06 April 2006, 19:25

The Avon should suit you nicely.

Rogue Wave used to own one of the Camel Trophy boats. Ask him what he thinks of them!

John

Poly · 06 April 2006, 19:28

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Originally Posted by jonmitch

Since I came onthis forum my "budget" has already crept up from 10000 to 15000! Will it ever end?

probably not...

Alan · 06 April 2006, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmitch

Bloody hell guys! Do you all work for ribcraft?

Since I came onthis forum my "budget" has already crept up from 10000 to 15000! Will it ever end?

What about these two? (no, they're not ribcraft)

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/LYM006/

http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/JBT180/

Be nice to me. I'm new to this lark!

Well, unless you are very lucky to have an unlimited budget, it's never enough for the ultimate boat is it?!

Ribcraft's are good solid RIBs and the 585 in particular would be well suited to your stated requirements. I have no axe to grind for or against them. The advice you are getting is well intended and based on the info you are giving. If you want to spend less or have something less suited to offshore use then thats your perogative.

Of these two RIBs.....the Avon 620 is a good boat, very capable of taking you to the Scillies and back. (I've done that trip in an Avon 620 in a F6). Couple of observations about that particular boat would be that its a tad underpowered and although it has jockeys (good) it has only two so you might want to budget for fitting another couple. The camel rib.......well camel ribs have a lot of weight in the 'scaffold' which serves no useful purpose whatsoever. The Honda 130 is also a heavy old beast. My personal thoughts were always along the line of lose the ironwork and Honda and fit a 200hp Optimax and you'd have a good boat!

xpertski · 06 April 2006, 20:47

hello there.......i would wait til something else pops up on boats and outboards, because none of the ones you have selected are excellent boats, however some would do sufficient, for the occasional venture offshore, like the avon 620, which although not a true offshore rib, will handle its own in moderate stuff, i would suggest holding on, and you will find a large selection for your budget!!!!! personnally i can recommend a humber, we have a 6.3m ocean pro, and cant fault it. the bombard you list, looks OK, but i reckon you could do allot better, selva, wouldnt bother with it, how about.....

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/RIM021/ as a good smaller boat
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F88106/ slightly underpowered, and doesnt say what seating, but looks good on surface!

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F95240/ This zodiac isnt the ultimate 4x4 of the sea, but its a good boat, and is a good all rounder, not a great offshore boat, but if its just the occassional venture, may do!?!?!
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F79161/ Good small boat
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F88254/

others currently for sale on there would go a bit beyond your .....extended budget haha, which believe me, even when you buy the boat will end up gathering extra costs too, haha

good luck!

p.s. for that money you can almost get a new humber of 6m size with decent suzuki!

codprawn · 07 April 2006, 00:39

http://bembridge.boatsandoutboards.c...05/?xreferer=1

This looks pretty much ideal - I think!!!

6.6m Tohatsu Rib with a 2005 Evinrude 175hp - should go like stink!!!

Don't know much about Tohatsu RIBs but it looks a proper offshore type with jockeys etc.

ADS · 07 April 2006, 09:09

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Originally Posted by codprawn

http://bembridge.boatsandoutboards.c...05/?xreferer=1

This looks pretty much ideal - I think!!!

6.6m Tohatsu Rib with a 2005 Evinrude 175hp - should go like stink!!!

Don't know much about Tohatsu RIBs but it looks a proper offshore type with jockeys etc.

Tohatsu RIBs are similar in design to Solent ribs with the hull having Phantom race boat origins

Looks gd I have to say.

Alex