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03 December 2004, 13:53
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Clay pigeon shooting of a RIB
What are the legal issues about using a gun at sea , I have often thought it would be good to go clay pigeon shooting off a RIB odiously given the right weather and safety provision Des
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03 December 2004, 13:56
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Simple answer is.......
.........people ashore may think you're setting of some sort of distress signal. Even is well of shore - what's the point !
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03 December 2004, 13:58
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It‘s a good point but I have seen it done in the Med off a yacht which had an auto trap Des .
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03 December 2004, 14:12
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NOT ALLOWED!!! in my part of the world and is a panishable offence.
You get fined Euro 300,000, boat and everything on it and gun confiscated and 15 year in prison on the spot without trial
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03 December 2004, 14:18
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Yea but that........
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confiscated and 15 year in prison on the spot without trial
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............happens just for taking photographs of planes in your neck of the woods
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03 December 2004, 14:19
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Yeah, those Gloucester Rozzers aren't too keen on people blazing away as they sail down the Severn...
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03 December 2004, 14:26
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Wait until I get an AK47 Nothing will cross this road again ) )
Hey MeMe who said that you allowed to loook at planes in Greece They are the big birds in the sky and a big secret too Not any more though
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03 December 2004, 14:53
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Shooting RHIBs
At last a subject that is my hobby !!
Until a few years ago we used to have an annual clay shoot on the Stena Sealink from Fishguard to Rosslare. All shooting took place over the stern and it was an excellent day. Difficulties finally arose with graeter controls on guns with 30 of us boarding a passenger boat. And for those who have never shot from a moving boat then rest assured it is damned hard !
However there were no legal issues and I understand this is still the case. Indeed boats are used in some parts of the country for wildfowling eg. the Broads punts.
There may be an issue if using a propelled vehicle for game if the same law applies as does on land.
Apart from safety issues and taking into account environmental concerns, byelaws and the quiet right of others I can see no reason why clay shooting cant happen on a boat. Quite common on big powered yachts.
Indeed I have looked at mounting one of our automatic traps on a 10m RHIB just for a bit of fun. Never got there due to time etc. Also thought of paintballing with a few big RHIBs !!.. now theres a good corporate day ! To this end have purchased a couple of professional paintball kits for the kids for xmas, but secretly part of some R&D!
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03 December 2004, 14:57
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Superb Idea.........
[QUOTE=quinquarimarine.. Also thought of paintballing with a few big RHIBs !!.. now theres a good corporate day ![/QUOTE]
.......for my Christmas / New Year Cruise. Now, where's my credit card.....
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03 December 2004, 15:06
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Now that is interesting concept shooting clays from a moving ship. Never done that.
I am bad on clay p shooting mainly because I've shot birds most of my life and clays are different and difficult for me to get use to. You have to take the shot asap they get up and not to wait. So I was told a week ago by a farmer down the road from here when we were shooting together in his fields.
Any way intersting
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03 December 2004, 15:15
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Originally Posted by quinquarimarine
....There may be an issue if using a propelled vehicle for game if the same law applies as does on land.....
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Hadn’t thought about the wildfowlers, but you are right they are using guns on the sea and in Poole they use dorys with outboards to shoot from.
Could this be the next Ribnet event a charity clay shoot next year Des
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03 December 2004, 15:29
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So I was told a week ago by a farmer down the road from here when we were shooting together in his fields.
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Hope you were not using a dog. That'll be illegal next Feb. 'cos its hunting wiv a dog.
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03 December 2004, 15:42
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Quote:
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Hope you were not using a dog. That'll be illegal next Feb. 'cos its hunting wiv a dog.
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As long as hunting with a rib isnt outlawed!!!
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03 December 2004, 15:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary Des
I have often thought it would be good to go clay pigeon shooting off a RIB
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nah, itts morr funn waytin til de ribburs gett flikt owt ov de ribb an wen thay arr upp inn de ayr, giv em bowf barruls.
banng banng, gott yer , yer bastuds.
gArf
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03 December 2004, 15:43
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I think you will find that even taking a dog for a walk will be legal.
If your dog shows any interest in a hedge or uses its nose in a hunting-type-way you will be arrested and put through the courts. Here you will meet drug pushers, rapists and robbers all receiving community service punishments (‘I’m a drug pusher, that’s a community service’) you on the other hand will be banged up while your dog will receive therapy and rehab to stop it being such an naughty animal. rant rant rant rant........ Des
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03 December 2004, 15:43
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Mark who do you think you are talking in that tone an EXZPERT in clay pigeon shooting by using a dog to sniff the clays out no doubt. Go and
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03 December 2004, 15:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary Des
Hadn’t thought about the wildfowlers, but you are right they are using guns on the sea and in Poole they use dorys with outboards to shoot from.
Could this be the next Ribnet event a charity clay shoot next year Des
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Phil Davies is your man on that. I believe he is looking at using a small RIB or SIB for punt gunning.
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03 December 2004, 15:49
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03 December 2004, 15:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Garfish
nah, itts morr funn waytin til de ribburs gett flikt owt ov de ribb an wen thay arr upp inn de ayr, giv em bowf barruls.
banng banng, gott yer , yer bastuds.
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Wiv gArfie's patented "flikkin' device"...
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03 December 2004, 16:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Garfish
nah, itts morr funn waytin til de ribburs gett flikt owt ov de ribb an wen thay arr upp inn de ayr, giv em bowf barruls.
banng banng, gott yer , yer bastuds.
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Yeah yeah Whatever!!!!!
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