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24 January 2022, 13:10
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Cornwall
Boat name: Badlands
Make: Brig Eagle 8
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki 350
MMSI: 232030310
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 43
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Comments on this Zodiac please
https://www.scotlandnautique.co.uk/b...ngdom-7728002/
Would you go for it? Any thoughts? Thanks in advance?
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24 January 2022, 16:22
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Dixon
Boat name: "H8 2 Swim"
Make: monaco yachtsman
Length: 4m +
Engine: OB
Join Date: Dec 2021
Posts: 71
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Nice, but may be a little underpowered. What is the max hull rating? Take it for a test drive if you can.
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26 January 2022, 23:37
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Country: Australia
Town: Dalmeny
Make: zodiac
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,250
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Love the advice people give on here!!!!!...so a 150 merc is underpowered and speeds of over 40kts a tad slow for some.
A good review here on much the same outfit https://www.boatsales.com.au/editori...pen-650-30021/
My concern would be that tiny little fuel tank, thought they had a 120lt with 150lt optional.
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27 January 2022, 08:10
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Member
Country: France
Town: Côte d'Azur
Boat name: Beaver Patrol
Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 5,934
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Spent a couple of weeks using a brand new (literally 0 hours) one of these a couple of years ago. Struck me as very flimsy - every other wave you came off the thing sounded like tin can. I remember some of the little fixings for the windscreen came off so we actually removed the screen in the end.
That said Zodiac have a very good reputation. I appreciate it's new but £50k seems like a lot for what is there.
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27 January 2022, 17:13
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Cornwall
Boat name: Badlands
Make: Brig Eagle 8
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki 350
MMSI: 232030310
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 43
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Thanks for all your thoughts guys. Very much appreciated.
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28 January 2022, 13:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London/Isle of Wight
Boat name: Orca
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 60EFI
MMSI: 235113484
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
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Underpowered for sure, but also find out what material the tubes are; we've had issues with Zodiac tubes.
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29 January 2022, 04:25
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Country: Australia
Town: Dalmeny
Make: zodiac
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cleatsandcode
Underpowered for sure, but also find out what material the tubes are; we've had issues with Zodiac tubes.
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How are you calculating its underpowered, has there been a post where the op has stated what loads he will be carrying and what prop is on the engine. Are speeds of over 40kts slow and underpowered in your opinion ? you must be very disappointed in your 60 if that the case. Have you used one of these engines ? we had one on an aluminium commercial sea urchin boat which out performed the Suzuki 175 we had before it.
I did test run a 650 with a 150 merc a few years ago which was far from lacking but due to conditions could'nt keep the boat in the water above 4000rpm.
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29 January 2022, 11:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London/Isle of Wight
Boat name: Orca
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 60EFI
MMSI: 235113484
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
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Originally Posted by jonp
How are you calculating its underpowered, has there been a post where the op has stated what loads he will be carrying and what prop is on the engine. Are speeds of over 40kts slow and underpowered in your opinion ? you must be very disappointed in your 60 if that the case. Have you used one of these engines ? we had one on an aluminium commercial sea urchin boat which out performed the Suzuki 175 we had before it.
I did test run a 650 with a 150 merc a few years ago which was far from lacking but due to conditions could'nt keep the boat in the water above 4000rpm.
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Have been on and helmed similar size and power boats and always felt like I needed a bit more if people are on the boat. Bizarrely the 60 on our allows near 40kts with the right trim, and that’s enough for that size.
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02 February 2022, 22:36
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Country: Australia
Town: Dalmeny
Make: zodiac
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 1,250
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Originally Posted by cleatsandcode
Have been on and helmed similar size and power boats and always felt like I needed a bit more if people are on the boat. Bizarrely the 60 on our allows near 40kts with the right trim, and that’s enough for that size.
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You must have an extremely light boat as we also have a 60 merc (mariner)efi on a zodiac 500 pro and get about 32kts top speed. Perhaps the 650 zodiac you were on was propped incorrectly or positioned to low etc.
What prop do you have on your 60 to get 40kts ? does it reach full max rpm.
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02 February 2022, 23:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London/Isle of Wight
Boat name: Orca
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 60EFI
MMSI: 235113484
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
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Originally Posted by jonp
You must have an extremely light boat as we also have a 60 merc (mariner)efi on a zodiac 500 pro and get about 32kts top speed. Perhaps the 650 zodiac you were on was propped incorrectly or positioned to low etc.
What prop do you have on your 60 to get 40kts ? does it reach full max rpm.
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Around the 4K mark for my little rib, only max it with water toys
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03 February 2022, 00:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Nottinghamshire
Make: Ranieri 15
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF50
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 1,281
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Originally Posted by cleatsandcode
Around the 4K mark for my little rib, only max it with water toys
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Yes but what pitch prop? And at 4K you're not even in the WoT range, which engine is it?
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03 February 2022, 00:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London/Isle of Wight
Boat name: Orca
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 60EFI
MMSI: 235113484
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Limecc
Yes but what pitch prop? And at 4K you're not even in the WoT range, which engine is it?
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Off the top of my head, stock for the efi. Planning on switching to stainless because vanity [emoji23]
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04 February 2022, 07:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,951
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jonp
Love the advice people give on here!!!!!...so a 150 merc is underpowered and speeds of over 40kts a tad slow for some.
My concern would be that tiny little fuel tank, thought they had a 120lt with 150lt optional.
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Indeed, in fact the problem isn't the lack of hp but too much. Put a smaller lighter injected 2 stroke on it and you will have a much nicer handling rib. More isn't necessarily better and a big lump on the stern, particularly if passengers are also seated there bound to upset the balance and handling.
Pete
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