Concept Rib

Sonar · 20 January 2010, 20:56

Are there any concept ribs being built ?

Got an Idea you would like to see incorporated in to a rib.?

What do you think the next great idea will be for rib design or extras.??

Jim Robinson · 20 January 2010, 22:09

We have a 10m project underway not going to say more at this stage but this is the helm seat we are working on this week.

Sonar · 20 January 2010, 22:44

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We have a 10m project underway not going to say more at this stage but this is the helm seat we are working on this week.

Looks like an interesting project.

Will there be any under deck storage lockers ?

Cookee · 21 January 2010, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Sonar

Are there any concept ribs being built ?

Got an Idea you would like to see incorporated in to a rib.?

What do you think the next great idea will be for rib design or extras.??

We're doing the hard boat version first, but we may do a RIB if there is a call for it? Four racing seats with an option for a large bench behind for the leisure version with a cabin comprising of a V berth and a small galley with the heads under the berth.

Sonar · 21 January 2010, 09:55

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We're doing the hard boat version first, but we may do a RIB if there is a call for it? Four racing seats with an option for a large bench behind for the leisure version with a cabin comprising of a V berth and a small galley with the heads under the berth.

This looks like it has a stepped hull.
What are the advantages of a stepped hull ?

Robbie Diesel · 21 January 2010, 18:37

Got an Idea you would like to see incorporated in to a rib.?

How about suspension seats that DON'T cost £2500 Each ??????

gtflash · 21 January 2010, 18:57

I REALLY want a wave piercing type design of boat or rib, in a family sized model, like rib kali

Sonar · 22 January 2010, 08:53

I was thinking more along the lines of wells in the floor for holding batteries and storage of other items. Watertight.
Trying to keep the weight to the lowest part of the boat.

A consul with the steering wheel let in to it so it does not stick out as far.

Two under floor in line fuel tanks and change over switch.

Spare conducts under the floor so as one could add accessories .easily..
With screwed down access covers each end.

A vhs aerial built into the A frame that gos up when you turn on the radio like a car aerial.

The fuel breather run through to the transom.

Cookee · 22 January 2010, 09:46

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This looks like it has a stepped hull.
What are the advantages of a stepped hull ?

It does have a stepped hull, and like hull designs they all vary, but operate on the same principal. To put it simply, instead of running on a "pad" or the rear of the "V", a stepped hull runs on two or three points, ie. the point of the transom and the steps forward of that, this reduces drag and increases pitch stability.

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How about suspension seats that DON'T cost £2500 Each ??????

What do you have - I will listen to anyone!

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A consul with the steering wheel let in to it so it does not stick out as far.

A vhs aerial built into the A frame that gos up when you turn on the radio like a car aerial.

If you put the steering wheel closer to the console, you will have to cut out more space for your legs or do you have very long arms?

VHF aerials like that used to exist for CB radios (I'm going back a bit here), but especially on a boat it isn't practical because of the environment, a VHF aerial needs to be exactly the right length to work properly (to short and it could damage the transmitter), and with all of the salt it wouldn't last long.

The other stuff is common on well made boats!

Dirk Diggler · 22 January 2010, 13:35

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What are the advantages of a stepped hull ?

Less likely to slide off the trailer on a steep slipway.

RIBRyda · 23 January 2010, 18:26

The trouble about concepts is that they tend to be expensive and usually point nowhere. As RIB builders we have to be guided by what the market wants, and what the market decides it can afford (not a lot at the moment!). Differentiation between manufacturers is usually not as much as they'd have you believe, and a genuinely "new" design is an incredibly expensive rarity.

Having said that, we, (probably in common with most other builders????), are more than happy to talk to our customers and potential customers at any time to find out what people like / dislike / need in their boats. Of course, by definition we're talking about new boats here, which immediately discounts about 75% of the market.

Concepts? Innovation? Design? All great stuff if someone's going to pay for it!

Sonar · 23 January 2010, 18:32

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The trouble about concepts is that they tend to be expensive and usually point nowhere. As RIB builders we have to be guided by what the market wants, and what the market decides it can afford (not a lot at the moment!). Differentiation between manufacturers is usually not as much as they'd have you believe, and a genuinely "new" design is an incredibly expensive rarity.

Having said that, we, (probably in common with most other builders????), are more than happy to talk to our customers and potential customers at any time to find out what people like / dislike / need in their boats. Of course, by definition we're talking about new boats here, which immediately discounts about 75% of the market.

Concepts? Innovation? Design? All great stuff if someone's going to pay for it!

Fair point you have .
I can see if you made a concept rib it would either be just a showpiece or an expensive one off.

Concepts will only be viable if the whole industry adopts the same idea.

Then I guess it would then be called innovative opposed to concept.

Leapy · 23 January 2010, 19:46

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A...aerial...that gos up when you turn on the radio like a car aerial.

From experience...one of the most unreliable devices known to man

gtflash · 24 January 2010, 10:09

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Originally Posted by gtflash

I REALLY want a wave piercing type design of boat or rib, in a family sized model, like rib kali

if anyone has any designs on the table id be interested in their feedback.

Producing more and more new ribs the same as every other one seems a thankless task, evolving an existing model is different, but creating more the same in a lean market

Sonar · 24 January 2010, 11:58

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Originally Posted by gtflash

if anyone has any designs on the table id be interested in their feedback.

Producing more and more new ribs the same as every other one seems a thankless task, evolving an existing model is different, but creating more the same in a lean market

This is the point i have been trying to say right from the first post.