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23 June 2003, 13:27
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corrosion on jeeps/cars
I took the Nissan Terrano for the NCT (Irish MoT) last week and it failed due to brake pipe corrosion. The exhaust and other underfloor metal had started to corrode. I suspect it's regular dips in the sea aren't helping. I'm too lazy to wash the underside down after every spin and wonder does anyone know of an anti-corrosion spray or whatever to sort this out.
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23 June 2003, 13:40
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Wash it all down thoroughly and then spray waxoyl liberally around everywhere underneath.
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23 June 2003, 15:08
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Garages are not alowed to use wax oil any more but their are plenty that do! mainly back street ones. or buy a volvo that has been winterised. They spray a very thick rubber under the cars to stop the salt on the winter roads corroding the cars.
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23 June 2003, 15:23
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Country: UK - England
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Saab used to run brake pipes INSIDE the floorpan in a conduit... don't know if they still do this now that they're just rebadged Vauxhalls?
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23 June 2003, 16:20
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T9 from Boeshield. Invented by the boeing company and branded as such. I have found it works a treat in corrosion prevention. There is also Corrosion-X .
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23 June 2003, 17:25
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What I do on my entient Range Rover which I use ONLY to put the boat in and out of the water is to wash it all down underneath after I get back home with a presure hose and then mix diesel, washing up liquid and water and wash it again with the presure hose, then rinse it.
I have the jeep now (is 1976 model) for 10 years and NOTHING has gone wrong.
Now tempting fate it will probably colapse next time I go to start it LOLOL
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23 June 2003, 17:34
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Quote:
Originally posted by DepSol
T9 from Boeshield. Invented by the boeing company and branded as such. I have found it works a treat in corrosion prevention. There is also Corrosion-X .
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I've got some of that stuff, and I find it rubbish!
The best stuff I've ever used was made by Wurth, and was called tetrysil (I think) this stuff was amazing! dried like a waxy layer that stayed put, we had it on the trim tabs & various joints/fittings on the race boat transon (submerged and exposed to the 80mph water flow) and it looked the same after two seasons! never seen anything else like it.
If anyone wants to by some T9, I've got some for sale!
P.S. Manos, you're mad!!
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23 June 2003, 18:24
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jon Fuller
P.S. Manos, you're mad!!
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Did I say any different??
But my washing down improvisation works 100% on anything that is dirty, from an old Range Rover under sashi to MX bikes.
It cleans.
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23 June 2003, 19:37
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Quote:
Originally posted by Manos
and then mix diesel, washing up liquid and water and wash it again with the presure hose, then rinse it.
it LOLOL
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What do you use to clean the driveway afterwards?
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23 June 2003, 21:57
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- and how do you dispose of this environmentally disasterous concoction?
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23 June 2003, 22:57
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I water the plants and my garden looks lovely, also tiles look wonderfully signing.
By the way, Diesel is biodigradable and is good for plants etc. Ask a physisit
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23 June 2003, 23:01
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Err, better to ask a chemist, I think!
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23 June 2003, 23:21
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Why can't garages use waxyoil any more
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24 June 2003, 00:35
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Quote:
Originally posted by H2O Events
Why can't garages use waxyoil any more
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Better ask Manos, ribnets "PHYSISIT"! I don't know wot one of them is, but I bet it's a good job!
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24 June 2003, 11:25
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Don't know prob carcinogenic or some stupid rule. CJL will know for definite.
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24 June 2003, 11:43
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OK guys or ask a chemist then if that makes you happy
Hopwever, in countries like Portugal, Spain, SFrance, Italy and Greece there are garages that will wash your engine and the under-shashi down with a mixcture of diesel, detergent and hot water. All residues drain into the mains.
Manos the Chemist promoted himself to A PHYSISIT
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24 June 2003, 12:33
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Manos, unless this is bio-diesel, you'd get in a lot of trouble in the UK washing this mixture into a main drain. (if you were found out!) Mind you, even bio-diesel would probably be frowned on as well.
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24 June 2003, 13:06
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Richard I know this. Is an offence here in the UK not to dispose properly any petroleum or petroleum related products (which I do incidentally).
However, in other countries in Europe I don't think the law is the same as it is here in the UK. Although polluting the environment is a criminal offence everywhere in Europe.
Diesel is a biodegradable product. Is made out of natural resources and it disburses and absorbed in the environment (slowly I have to say). Is like a form of long disolving fertiliser.
Meaning that, where a major oil tanker disaster has occurred (like the EXXON VALDEZ for example) studies have shown that marine life, after of a dead period, has grown and has developed much better than it was before the disaster. These studies are published but they are never advertised for obvious reasons.
Same applies to other areas which were polluted by diesel too.
I am not saying that is a good thing to go around and pollute the sea and the environment in general by poring diesel in the oceans and the mountains, what I am saying is that a bit of diesel never harmed any one. If any one spills 200 grms of diesel (that is how much is required to wash the under-shashi of a Range Rover) on his front lawn or tiles or garden it will NOT kill any of the grass or plants.
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24 June 2003, 14:40
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corrosion on jeeps/cars
Manos is breaking the law and causing an offence under the Water Resources Act 1991. What he has done is potentially punishable by an £20k fine and/or two years in prison.
Do not become a misguided sheep and do the same as he has done.
He is totally wrong in assuming diesel is biodegradable. It has hundreds of OTHER chemicals which clean and protect the engine as it is used.
Contary to Manos's protestations Diesel and its additives are carcenogenic and are well know for triggering Cancer in Humans.
The statement that the Exon Valdez Disaster has promoted marine life is also eroneous.
The oil kills all the non tolerant species and causes a flourish of growth in the tolerant species which will eventually cause the tolerant species population to reach unsustainable levels and collapse killing even the tollerant species in the long term.
Look at for info on a similar case;
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...=&area=&month=
The best method is to rinse off with lots of water or keep your car out of the salt water! (A company called Marlow make this amazing device called rope!)
CJL
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24 June 2003, 14:49
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Is this me holding the cam?? LOLOL ![chuckle](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif)
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