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16 October 2017, 21:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex
Boat name: undecided
Make: Humber - Assault
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 60 hp efi
MMSI: next year
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 105
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Costings for my project
Just thought I would share this for prospective new boat owners.
Essentially, what started out as the purchase of a cheap fun run about for exploration has turned into a much bigger project. Don't get me wrong here as I am not moaning about it (yet) as I could have saved funds by being content with what I initially purchased.
But that's not me as pretty much every motorbike I bought I modified to varying degrees. In the world of motorbikes I splashed out £10k on the engine of my Buell S1 ....only to find that a lack of cooling to rear v cylinder constantly buggered the rear piston. Best bike I bought was a 1998 Yamaha R1...already kitted out for race spec....wow, that was a bit of kit.
As a heads up to prospective rib/boat owners I feel that major funds can be saved by thinking about what your requirements are and purchasing a complete package to suit. I also suggest to purchase 'off season' as there appears to be a wider pool of boats to choose from.
I must admit that even though it is costing me here, it is an interesting learning curve and that is something I value.
Below is a basic costing of my project
Purchase of Humber Assault
£1650
Insurance
£112
Tube cleaner (shite)
£10
UV protectant - 303
£18
4 x life belts
£100
Bilge pump
£20
2 x 2 inch ratchet straps
£13
4m x 6m Tarpaulin
£29.89
2 x Number plates
£13
37m x 10mm rope for anchor ect
£50
25 litre tank
£60
4.5 kg danforth anchor & 7mm chain & 10mm rope
£53
hook 4 chirp
£178.9
single jockey seat
£335
10mm x 37 mtrs rope - 2500kg
£36.98
original gorilla glue
£6.75
50 no 12 x3/4 pan head 316 s/tappers
£9.95
50 no - 5 & 6mm hardwood dowling plugs
£4.1
7 no - 120 /80 g flapper grinding discs
£12.04
block and tackle
£27
New 60 hp Mercury efi 4s fitted
£4050
Insurance revision
£36
75 m roll of mutton cloth
£26.25
order for deck, console, transom, hull update
£249.4
engine lock
£42
Toluene solvent - rib cleaner
£9.99
2 x 4" roller trays, 10 x inserts, 2 x rad rollers, d/masks
£24
hobby multi tool
£22
2.5L non slip black flow coat
£34
100 quantity no 12 x 32 mm pan head 316 s/tappers
£20.95
2 no L76x50w int x 10mm square u bolts
£12.36
4 no L105x50w x 10mm square u bolts for axle
£18
steering cable gromet - 110cm, black
£7.4
1 tube sikaflex 291i - black
wheel clamp
£30
88mm pod housing
£35
replacement console seat
£95
teleflex /seastar nfb safe-t 11 rotary helm &cable
£163
throttle cable
£50
gear cable
£50
flare
£20
flare case
£10
vhf radio
£120
107 mm gromet for steering cable
braided sleeving for cables
steering cable gromets
tank q/fit connector
£10
trunking & switches
£70
spare wheel for trailer
£45
winch strap
£15
Marine grease
£8
4 x pressure relief valves
£200
plate for control
£15
total
8314.3
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16 October 2017, 22:33
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You need to add another 10 quid for a crystal ball as we need one due to lack of before and after pictures
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17 October 2017, 09:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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There're a lot of self tappers in there[emoji57]
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Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
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17 October 2017, 09:20
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Scary isn't it. I don't cost it if it's for me. I'd cry.
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17 October 2017, 09:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Scary isn't it. I don't cost it if it's for me. I'd cry.
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I keep a mental tally of the big ticket items, but never factor in every nut, bolt, sika, etc.
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Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
Rule#4: Don't feed the troll
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17 October 2017, 09:26
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: denny
Boat name: breezy
Make: northcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: honda 150
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 888
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I want to know how you can build a boat without cable ties I mean what kind of project is it without at least 1 cable tie
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17 October 2017, 09:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex
Boat name: undecided
Make: Humber - Assault
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 60 hp efi
MMSI: next year
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 105
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
There're a lot of self tappers in there[emoji57]
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Hmmmm....about that.....I ordered them too short Also over ordered on flappers wheel, one would have sufficed.
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17 October 2017, 09:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex
Boat name: undecided
Make: Humber - Assault
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 60 hp efi
MMSI: next year
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 105
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Quote:
Originally Posted by breezeblock
I want to know how you can build a boat without cable ties I mean what kind of project is it without at least 1 cable tie
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stock item.
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17 October 2017, 09:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex
Boat name: undecided
Make: Humber - Assault
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 60 hp efi
MMSI: next year
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 105
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Scary isn't it. I don't cost it if it's for me. I'd cry.
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expensive learning curve that's for sure
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17 October 2017, 10:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by eze
expensive learning curve that's for sure
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Aye! It's not called a
Break
Out
Another
Thousand
For nowt[emoji57]
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17 October 2017, 11:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Boat name: Matchless
Make: Ribcraft 6.8m
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 3.4l 225 V6
MMSI: 232028056
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 287
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stop talking sense you lot its interfering with my boat owning dream
...funnily enough is there a 'things they don't tell you' thread for those thinking of buying new boats?
Price lists are fine then you realise everything is an extra rather than here is a boat these are the bits on it and this is how much it costs
...and that's before I think about marina/storage/etc etc
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17 October 2017, 13:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Darlington
Boat name: Duo-diver
Make: Avon SR5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 90hp
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 64
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I don't even want to tot up how much I have spent on the Sea-rider..... it would be frightening!
On Calypso we have kept track and it's been just over £1k with a lump of that being a new set of carbs to replace the old uns which were not matched to a 90hp engine!
Sometimes it's best just to settle back with a glass of scotch and think about time on the water and not quantify the cost per hour!
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17 October 2017, 18:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,532
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If you think about the cost you can't afford it, I don't keep a list in case she finds it
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17 October 2017, 18:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up North and right a bit
Make: XS500/Merc340/Bic245
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mar 60/20/3.5/Hon2.3
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,126
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Costings for my project
Quote:
Originally Posted by eze
New 60 hp Mercury efi 4s fitted[/FONT]
£4050
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That’s a cracking price for a new Mercury 60 efi [emoji106]
Was it a ‘new’ new or a new other? Either way, well done.
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17 October 2017, 20:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,777
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A much wealthier person that I told me that if it floats, f&*&^ or flies, it's going to be expensive.
It is an interesting list though.
50% of the total spend was on the engine.
Initial purchase price was 20% of the total spend.
Anything you buy now can be justified as a relatively small proportion of what you've already spent.
I'm assuming you did the work yourself and if so, did you identify any significant lessons for the next one?
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17 October 2017, 20:58
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
Make: Ribcraft 585
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F115
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 2,919
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I keep a mental tally of the big ticket items, but never factor in every nut, bolt, sika, etc.
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Are you trying to make out that you BUY bolts for a project?
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There is a place on this planet for all of Gods creatures.........right next to my tatties and gravy.
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17 October 2017, 21:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A1an
Are you trying to make out that you BUY bolts for a project?
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Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
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18 October 2017, 01:44
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Member
Country: USA
Town: CA
Make: Zodiac RIB-P
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,235
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Costings for my project
The classic bumper sticker or shirt, “my biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my toys for what I told her they cost”.
Keeping track of boat costs seems like madness. Goes with “how do you make a small fortune in boats? Start with a large fortune”
Also I easily spent several hundred dollars on stainless bolts and fasteners for my boat.
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19 October 2017, 01:13
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Toronto
Make: Highfield
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 115XB
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 74
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Lol! Dealer had a nice 7.9 meter boat in when I picked up mine from storage. I drove away with him yelling “I’ll give you a great trade in on yours!!!”
As a technical diver it’s not even the boat it’s all the kit that goes into which I’m afraid to tell my wife about!
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19 October 2017, 09:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Boat name: Matchless
Make: Ribcraft 6.8m
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 3.4l 225 V6
MMSI: 232028056
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 287
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rebreather? Yup been there done that - best not think about the cost per dive
At least the gas costs are very low..
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