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12 June 2014, 09:14
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
Boat name: Top Banana
Make: Scorpion 9m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 421STI
MMSI: Yeah right!
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Ah, ok. That's why you do it professionally and I don't!
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12 June 2014, 10:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Deck panels glassed both sides
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12 June 2014, 14:20
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Member
Country: Finland
Town: Helsinki
Boat name: SR 5.4
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Toh1 3,5 Yam 90/2S
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 919
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biffer
The paste has chop strands in it, it's a bugger to use, it's fairly flexible and has more or less the same characteristics as Gell
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On one boat removed a stringer where the "rounding" had been done with a polyester & fumed silica mix(i think). It was very hard an britle stuff, and it was suprising to see how cracked and partly loose from both the hull and stringer it was, adding only weight but no strenght.
So think its important that the paste/filler used in this application maintains at least some flexibility.
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12 June 2014, 15:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Silica and Gell mix is usually just a filler and is like a dust the you mix with Gell. It's only as strong as the Gell, we don't need to put it in really as the mat that we've put in will more than do the job, it just there to soften the corners and make consolidating it a bit easier
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12 June 2014, 15:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Nearly forgot
This bit is important as mat on its own isn't waterproof.
Should go back to another asking why some boats are dearer than others. I would bet that 70% of ribs aren't Gell washed below deck
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13 June 2014, 12:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dartmouth
Boat name: TIDEL III
Make: AVON SEARIDER
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 823
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bet the % that are not gel washed under the deck is higher than 80%
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13 June 2014, 15:29
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,985
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so whats the difference between gel wash and flowcoat or are they the same thing?
ive helped my pal build a few boats but never herd of gel wash
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13 June 2014, 16:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Same thing, we used to save all the old Gell bits in a big drum and use it, don't matter what colour it is, it's only used to seal the matt
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13 June 2014, 17:09
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Member
Country: USA
Town: CA
Make: Zodiac RIB-P
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,235
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do you use a polyester resin or epoxy resin to do the rebuild work?
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13 June 2014, 19:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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This is poly
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16 June 2014, 18:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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18 June 2014, 12:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Wibs. You could get a post this week. My gut feeling is this gauge won't work
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18 June 2014, 14:08
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: livingston
Boat name: the massive
Make: valiant
Length: 6m +
Engine: honda BF115
MMSI: 235092322
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 200
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Here is an example of a professional GRP repair that I waited 2 months for. Got home after a 20 min tow and here's the result. I left it to the experts as I have no experience of fibreglassing but it seems that I'm not the only one.
After returning the boat I was told not to worry as they would fix it free of charge....WTF!
Now waiting to see result of 2nd attempt.
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18 June 2014, 15:17
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#74
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Ouch, not an easy repair though, it cracked because something is on the move, you can't just Gell over it to hide it, and I'm not saying that's what they done, you could open the crack even further, clean it out, stuff a load of wet matt in there with a scraper and clamp it back down, when it's dry then Gell over it, that's the easy way and it may fail again, the proper way would be to cut all the loose stuff out and start again
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18 June 2014, 17:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: 'Mojo'
Make: Searider
Length: 4m +
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 398
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biffer
My gut feeling is this gauge won't work
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The bloke I bought it from was a bit of a DIYer......
That's the last time I trust a man with ginger hair.
I'm sure you'll put it right Biff...
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18 June 2014, 18:08
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#76
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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The ginger ninja will be slashing your tubes mate
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15 July 2014, 18:43
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#77
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Haven't posted this old girl for a while, knocked back into a boat now, not a wreck anymore
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15 July 2014, 19:16
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#78
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,047
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Looks awesome, what a transformation from what it was
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15 July 2014, 19:25
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#79
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth
Boat name: Cinsirrah III
Make: Oceans
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin D3 160 Diesels
MMSI: 235089712
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 462
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Thing of beauty,top bloke must have done that 😊😊
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15 July 2014, 19:48
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#80
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Low Flyer
Thing of beauty,top bloke must have done that 😊😊
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Biff got some help in then???
.....Looking Good Mate
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