Crap work

[biffer]

Know I've posted this subject up befor but trust me when I tell you I know why some boats are cheaper than others

[Jizm]

Ouch. What boat is that then mate?

[biffer]

Ballistic

[Nos4r2]

That's an old one isn't it? It's noticeably different to mine.

Whose name is on the HIN plate-Not Mako or ASIS by any chance?

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

That's an old one isn't it? It's noticeably different to mine.

?

. I'm sure given a couple of years, you could turn it into a cleaner Ballistic. :-)

[Kernow Buoy]

Tell us a bit more then Biff, what did it come in with soft deck, cracked knees? And what's poor about what's now exposed (as in how should it have been done).

[biffer]

Nothing left inside now. Totally rotten. Bare Matt. Ie not Gell washed. Matt isn't waterproof on its own. Water logged throughout. Never seen one this bad. I'll keep the pics coming it will mend up ok

[Poly]

is a project on this scale economically viable?

[biffer]

Yep was a cheap boat

[biffer]

Just a little bit of knowledge I will pass on about bad boat building, I've worked at quite a few boat building companies and had a little input into building them.
It is wise to always encapsulate each part of the job, put the wood in the transom and cover it up, do the stringers, cover them up, bulkheads the same.
If you throw all the wood in and cover it up in one go in my opinion is not right, any water that enters into any part of the timber has the freedom to capillary along to every other put of the boat.
That's where bad boat building comes in, in quicker to do the latter with means cheaper and you won't know until your warranty has gone.
I don't know why I moan really, it's all work for me!

[Adamn]

I know you cannot name names. Would you say the main UK Rib builders are OK or do even these cut corners sometimes?

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Adamn

I know you cannot name names. Would you say the main UK Rib builders are OK or do even these cut corners sometimes?

French builders tend to be the primary purveyors of tutt.

[biffer]

This boat is a ballistic, in there defence, as I haven't had my hands on a new one, there are very few that escape, you send the moulds somewhere else to get laid up and the quality can change dramatically, I know ribeye had a few light boats and I talk from experience when they were being made abroad, I've got no ties with coastline now but the hulls there were truly well made, it was there attention to detail on the finish that let them down, again trying to keep the cost down.
You can look at this with a different eye, if we could get the general public to learn that cheap boat aren't always a bargain and they are cheap for a reason then it would force the cowboys to step up a few runs, yeh right and my cocks a kipper!

[Adamn]

Originally Posted by Mollers

French builders tend to be the primary purveyors of tutt.

Oops that's my Zodiac devolving and falling apart soon- best I renew my flares or tie a long rope to the shore just incase!!

[Adamn]

That's dissolving ( damned predictive text)

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Adamn

That's dissolving ( damned predictive text)

Dunno I think it was pretty close


de·volve verb \di-ˈvälv, -ˈvȯlv, dē-\

: to gradually go from an advanced state to a less advanced state

: to pass (responsibility, power, etc.) from one person or group to another person or group at a lower level of authority

: to be given to someone after the owner has died

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by biffer

This boat is a ballistic, in there defence, as I haven't had my hands on a new one, there are very few that escape, you send the moulds somewhere else to get laid up and the quality can change dramatically,

Mine's a newer build and it's not even the same deck-it's a moulded deck whereas that looks to have a glassed in deck. There's at least one more stringer in the hull too looking at that pic-not that it means anything.
It looks like the deck mould has been changed.


Did that one have twin tanks?

[biffer]

Two tanks Nos, one in front of the other, don't panic mate, you'll have a heart attack, it's only a boat and everything is repairable, well almost everything

[Chris]

Nos I thought you had already given yours "The Treatment" anyway. ?

[biffer]

I think my words wood and capillary has frit the life out of him