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03 February 2011, 11:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Boat Lake Geneva
Boat name: Lark
Make: Capelli Cap 32 WA
Length: 10m +
Engine: Yamaha 250x2
MMSI: 235096621
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 193
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Dartmouth to Alderney, what do I need?
Hi there, I am planning a trip to Alderney sometime in March/April, ie when weather is a bit better.
The rib is 6.1m with a 150 opti on it. I have a small aux as well. Gear wise I have fixed Vhf plus handheld, plotter, charts, gecko's, musto HPX drysuits, life jackets, 160 ltr tank, tool box.
I was also wondering what paper work I need? My insurance is arranged through Towergate and covers 30 days continental use but I have asked them to come back to me if there are any other exceptions.
I would be taking my brother as the only passenger.
Any pointers or info would be greatly appreciated.
Regards Richard
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03 February 2011, 12:21
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,047
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Hi, I look forward to buying you a beer on arrival.
Let me know if there is anything we can do from this end for you, any info at all.
As for gear, it sounds like your close to sorted. The mid channel can be cold even in the middle of summer.
A radar reflector is important, a good one and not one of those plastic tube jobs. Also test your VHF as you will feel quite lonely, knowing you receive well and can transmit clearly will be a reassurance.
Insurance should be fine, but it sounds like you have checked with them to be certain which is sensible.
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03 February 2011, 12:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Boat Lake Geneva
Boat name: Lark
Make: Capelli Cap 32 WA
Length: 10m +
Engine: Yamaha 250x2
MMSI: 235096621
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 193
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sry forgot to mention I have Tri Lens reflector wounted on a wakeboard height A frame
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03 February 2011, 12:30
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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All you really need is calm seas. It's a long way of its choppy.
Paperwork wise there's not really much to worry about, although technically you will want your boat papers with you in case someone asks for them (very unlikely in Alderney but always possible on your return to Dartmouth). Take your passport, just in case you end up in France (either by intention or by bad navigation ). SSR registration not a bad idea as well.
You should fill out a customs form on arrival, but most rarely do.
Tri-lens (I have one too)
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03 February 2011, 12:48
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richardjawilson
Tri Lens reflector
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Jobsagoodun, as Erin says if you pick your weather it will be a great trip. Don't be put off by a bit of fog
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03 February 2011, 15:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Boat name: Grimalkin
Make: Ribcraft 750 Sport
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzi 250
MMSI: 235050647
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 909
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There are, technically, some paperwork and procedures required because Alderney is not in the EU. Part 1 of Form C1331 needs to be completed and delivered to the UK Border Agency before you leave. It can be downloaded from here:
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsP...HMCE_CL_000428
The notes at the end of the form explain the reporting procedure with the National Yachtline and what to do with Part 2 of the form upon your return. You'll need a Q (plain yellow) flag to fly on re-entering territorial waters (12 miles off).
I've always complied with the above but the National Yachtline are invariably surprised to be contacted and I'm sure that not many people do (or are even aware of the requirement).
You'll also be asked to complete a form upon checking in at the harbourmaster's office on arrival in Alderney. Your passport isn't required but as said above, it's as well to take it in case you end up in France.
Have a great trip.
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04 February 2011, 13:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Boat Lake Geneva
Boat name: Lark
Make: Capelli Cap 32 WA
Length: 10m +
Engine: Yamaha 250x2
MMSI: 235096621
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 193
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Avocet, thank your advice. I wonder how many people actully fill out the customs form?
Re my insurance, the 2 main stipulations for me were:
1. Must have another crew member on board, ie not single-handed.
2. Must have an aux engine.
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04 February 2011, 15:25
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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All these insurance stipulations people get saddled with suprise me.
I'm paying £300 odd pa and I'm covered for Elbe to Brest with no restrictions like that at all.
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04 February 2011, 15:40
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
All these insurance stipulations people get saddled with suprise me.
I'm paying £300 odd pa and I'm covered for Elbe to Brest with no restrictions like that at all.
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We're paying less than that and we're covered from the canaries to Northern Scandinavia
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04 February 2011, 16:14
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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I had to specifically ask my insurers to permit single handed use, which they allowed without any additional premium. I think they like to try and limit risk, even though it makes no real difference to cost. I also extended my cruising range without additional charge. All I need now is to extend the season I'm allowed on my swinging mooring and I'll be happy.
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04 February 2011, 16:33
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
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Sounds like a nice trip.
I appreciate that it's a no-brainer, but I will mention the hot drinks and handy high energy snacks. A 6m rib in midchannel is no place to get hungry or cold. I'm sure you have a First Aid kit. I tend to carry a simple passage plan and a handheld GPS, just in case a power issue takes the instruments out.
When "alone" like that, I carry a few things on my person, secured with lanyards, in case I go for a swim...
1. Handheld VHF
2. PLB
3. Torch
You'll have a ball
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04 February 2011, 19:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Bedajim and I did Dartmouth to Alderney for floptilla '10. It's a nice run.
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04 February 2011, 19:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Kings Lynn
Boat name: Blow 'N' Away
Make: Coastline
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 175
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 503
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Bedajim and I did Dartmouth to Alderney for floptilla '10. It's a nice run.
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Are you making a return trip this year?
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04 February 2011, 20:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Cannell
Are you making a return trip this year?
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No, they're coming to our's.
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05 February 2011, 20:17
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
No, they're coming to our's.
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You'll be missing out! We've got all the Belgians/Dutch and a few Frenchies (inc the 7m Vmax with 300XS) tagging along with us. It could be on an altogether different scale to last year
(Although going on past experience the chance of actually getting more than 10 boats will be slim! Especially since the stiffs have decided not to come )
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05 February 2011, 20:20
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
Especially since the stiffs have decided not to come )
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Are you referring to your Personal Lifestyle Sponsors, i.e. the Parental Gotchis? Cheek!
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05 February 2011, 20:22
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Are you referring to your Personal Lifestyle Sponsors, i.e. the Parental Gotchis? Cheek!
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I think he is insulting the hard boat drivers. again!
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05 February 2011, 20:22
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Are you referring to your Personal Lifestyle Sponsors, i.e. the Parental Gotchis? Cheek!
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Nope, I am referring to the SB&Rerrs in their silly hard boats
Quote:
Originally Posted by Channel Ribs
I think he is insulting the hard boat drivers. again!
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No insult intended
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05 February 2011, 20:25
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
silly hard boats
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Boats are like books, even the bad ones deserve respect. If it has a keel it has a soul.
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05 February 2011, 20:26
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,910
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Channel Ribs
I think he is insulting the hard boat drivers. again!
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Tut tut! Making fun of the less fortunate on a public forum is a bit ripe. When did simple pointing and laughing go out of fashion?
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