Deep-V ribs - manufacturer comparisons?

[steve-ribnet]

Originally Posted by Rokraider

When you say BMW Ribs, I wondered whether you meant BWM?
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Yep sorry (good typo though - wonder what a german BMW RIB would be like...)

So there's a lotta love for the Osprey Vipers out there. They seem quite beamy off-the shelf compared with the 2.0 humbers in 5.5m. Then again, looking at those XS ribs - (are they not Tornado clones (will I get shot for saying that?), they advertise 2.6m beam - 1.6m between sponsons, and that nose is pretty high for cutting through. Not as high as those Delta Dash's though.

Perhaps a wider beam tickles the fancy of the diver, although not everyone's cup of tea, but I'm noticing large differences in bow height between these, which has got to help keep the nose from burying/slapping. Am I right or is it just the way the photos look?

I'm learning - thanks HUMBER P4VWL for highlighting the difference between the Humber Destroyer and Ocean Pro. Certainly worth bearing in mind for this kind of boat.

I've a few PM's vouching for Redbay ribs - doesn't look like I've seen any as small as 5.5 though, and judging by the price, one mortgage is more than enough!

cheers

[willk]

Originally Posted by steve-ribnet

I've a few PM's vouching for Redbay ribs - doesn't look like I've seen any as small as 5.5 though, and judging by the price, one mortgage is more than enough!

I did consider giving you a private heads up on the Redbay but figured the Clan would do it for me. I see that I was not wrong!

Last trip there, I spotted a 5.5 in the yard. TBH, they only make 'em this small for folks that really want them, generally for existing clients. As the tubes are made by Henshaws, the comparative cost at this size tends to be uncompetitive, but you're getting a very special boat for the money.

When you consider that the motor, the electronics and the trailer (none of which float) are fixed costs, I know where I'd spend it....

[BogMonster]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Only the very best of that size, the Osprey Vipermax 5.8m.

+1 for that

[Zagato]

5.8 HP Tornado are advertised as "having a very narrow V shaped hull and high lifted bow". I don't know anything about them - but would like to! Anyone? They do seem to be bargains new compared to others...maybe it's because the tubes are PU made of polyurethan!! Second hand they also seem very cheap, this would be near twice the price if it was a Humber! http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/r...su-tldi-NAM347

Have to say it's very tempting, good engine etc and just get it re tubed with decent stuff eventually!? Would need rasurrance the boat/engine and seller were all sound before I made a move, I'll wait........Very little on the market at the moment....sorry for rambling, back on topic with V shaped hulls....

[treerat]

We have a Tornado Viking within the club. 5.5 I think with 90 hp.

Runs great with 4 divers and kit (single 12s) but gets sluggish with 6 or 7 on board.

It does however give a nice ride in most sea conditions.

With Tornado now being made abroad and XS-ribs the new incarnation (I think) not sure on what replaces the viking in the XS range.

These however look like great value - Lingbo yacht Limited - professional FRP vessels engaged in the manufacture and shipping of Honda's sales of these products and repair services

Especially the 2nd hand ones - Lingbo yacht Ltd.-Second-handMarket

[Rokraider]

Originally Posted by Andre

In 2000 we bought the hull mould for the BWM Deep Sea 21. We designed and made in house the moulds for the deck, seats console, ect. Some of you may recall my Seahawk I,II and III. Prior to making Seahawk III we lifted the bow. It then became a much better rib. Superb sea handling. Black Magic was of the exact same design. Nothing had been changed.

Just before Seawork 2011, this was on the Sunday before so you can check the weather forcast for the Solent for that day, I took the rib from Chichester to Southampton Dry Stack. I was together with my friend Steve. It was blowing a F6 when we took the rib over the Chichester bar. We survived to tell the tale. The rib performed better then I had expected it to. Sadly no camera on board.
My greatest regret is that due to very bad weather conditions we did not manage to drive Black Magic all the way from the Baltic to the UK. We did launch in Calais and crossed there heading for Littlehampton.

Now a very much different and better rib to the one driven by Hightower

It would appear that I am misinformed, I was told that Porters took over the mould. Sorry for misleading people.
Do you still have the mould? I am not far from you (Dunsfold) and would be interested to have a chat sometime.

[Andre]

Originally Posted by Rokraider

It would appear that I am misinformed, I was told that Porters took over the mould. Sorry for misleading people.
Do you still have the mould? I am not far from you (Dunsfold) and would be interested to have a chat sometime.

I believe they did as well but cannot confirm

as for the original mould then a long time ago we made a new one and like I said earlier we much improved it as well. Our production is in Poland.

[willk]

Originally Posted by Rokraider

I was told that Porters took over the mould. Sorry for misleading people.

Just to confuse matters further, Ferryman Boats in Northern Ireland had one too - their 6.3m boat has the same odd downward curving "spray rail" at the bow that one sees on the Parkers of that size.

[Chris]

My fist rib was a 10yo Osprey 5.25 and it was superb and the ideal platform for a small dive boat with its wide beam and superb seakindly hull.

The Vipermax 5.8 is the next evolution of that amazing hull and with a 115 on the back will give you exactly what you are after...

Give Roy at Osprey UK a call I am sure he will be happy to discuss the bext option for you!

[Zagato]

What a about a Ribcraft, impressive right up on hull design and boat

RibCraft 5.85 Professional Boat - Yeovil, Somerset, UK

+ 5 year warranty on hull and tubes. Think Humber only do 1year on the hull...

[Alzi]

Humber Ocean Pro

The proof is out there.......

GORE-TEX Arctic Challenge

[Zagato]

Originally Posted by Alzi

Humber Ocean Pro

The proof is out there.......

GORE-TEX Arctic Challenge

Agreed but the Destroyer hull is very capable. According to Humber the Ocean Pro hull only comes into it's own over the Destroyer hull if you are very experienced and really pushing it. It's a top end tweak of fine tuning

[Chris]

[QUOTE=Zagato;420498]What a about a Ribcraft, impressive right up on hull design and boat
[QUOTE]

Not a bad hull, just a shame about the quality of the build...

[jambo]

All the simlies in the world will not hide that petty barbed statement against a really good rib

[Alzi]

Just to sidestep a little , on the original post there was a list of possible makes , , What material do you want it made from , beaing in mind Divers do carry things like knives and buckles so does the material have a deciding factor ? , Hypalon , Pvc OR PU. and do all the makes offer a choice?

After Repairing Both in the past , I personally would opt for Hypalon Everytime.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by jambo

All the simlies in the world will not hide that petty barbed statement against a really good rib

Your right, smilies deleted.

Like I said having been on a couple not a bad ride, however I have also had to do some re-rigging on a Ribcraft and was not impressed by the original fit out.

Also you only have to go here to see that there are issues with quality, and lets face it sealing hatches into a wooden deck is pretty basic stuff...

http://www.rib.net/forum/f8/to-all-y...ers-43430.html

[Leapy]

Originally Posted by Chris

lets face it sealing hatches into a wooden deack is pretty basic stuff...

Let's face it, spelling is pretty basic stuff too. ;-)

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Leapy

Let's face it, spelling is pretty basic stuff too. ;-)

[jambo]

Originally Posted by Chris

Me too!!

[Chris]

Nice use of a simlie