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02 May 2009, 12:31
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
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The console tanks aren't infallible either - the guy who bought my boat new told me that the first time he filled it up and put it on the slip the fuel started p*ssn out a seam in the back that hadn't been made properly. Still I suppose it was easier to change than an underfloor one would have been
Minor thread hijack; does anybody know if all the console tanks are 90L? I have never managed to get more than about 50L in mine when topping up from allegedly nearly empty, but I am deeply suspicious of the fuel gauge anyway, but if its that far out I probably ought to get a replacement
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02 May 2009, 13:25
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Country: UK - Isle of Man
Town: Douglas
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Hi Stephen
I believe they are 70ltrs!!
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02 May 2009, 13:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: True Blue
Make: Humber ocean pro 6.3
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 150 opti
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 456
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91lts will fit in most of the Humber jockey consoles but there is a low console model, usually used in the narrow beam models i.e. assault that will only take the 70lt tanks but most of those go out with cut outs in the side to take 25lt loose tanks
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04 May 2009, 12:17
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: West Scotland
Boat name: Orca
Make: Humber Ocean Pro 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 115 TLDI
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Thanks everyone for the replies and good advice.
OK looks like the 5.5m Destroyer it is then.
As to what colours god only knowns.
Will opt for the XL transom and sports console, 91 litre console tank, underdeck trunking, tube top protection, bow cleat and closed bow locker.
Looking at either a 115hp Mariner Optimax or 115hp Tohatsu TLDI (anyone any preference?) E-tec is nice but too expensive.
As for trailer been looking at SBS and De Graaf. The De Graaf swing beam looks good and is a great price.
Will need to get down to Humber soon and have a look.
Ian, I'll drop you a line soon with a view to price on the above.
Thanks again.
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04 May 2009, 12:52
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Member
Country: Australia
Town: adelaide
Boat name: tba
Make: custom
Length: 7m +
Engine: outboard,200+
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 72
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tohatsu
No i am not a dealer just trying to help. Below is a link to a 115 tdli review
regards
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http://www.boatpoint.com.au/engine-r...-tldi-115-9339
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04 May 2009, 14:24
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Country: UK - Isle of Man
Town: Douglas
Length: no boat
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Humber have a number of Destroyers circa 5,5m length at 30-35% discount currently available, maybe worth a look on their site if you have not already done so.
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04 May 2009, 17:10
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Country: France
Town: Nantes
Boat name: A l'Attaque
Make: Sea-Way
Length: 6m +
Engine: Not here yet
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian Sharlot
91lts will fit in most of the Humber jockey consoles but there is a low console model, usually used in the narrow beam models i.e. assault that will only take the 70lt tanks but most of those go out with cut outs in the side to take 25lt loose tanks
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Humber don't do a specific console for the Assault. Its called the "standard jockey console" that is usually fitted. It can take the 91L fuel tank.
Returning to the original subject. The understanding that I have is that the Destroyer is the easy ride, take anything hull. Whereas the Ocean Pro is a more technical hull, requiring a more skilled driver but with better sensations providing the driver knows how to exploit it. Please correct me if i'm wrong for those who have driven both.
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04 May 2009, 17:24
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: True Blue
Make: Humber ocean pro 6.3
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 150 opti
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 456
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Originally Posted by Pablo
Humber don't do a specific console for the Assault. Its called the "standard jockey console" that is usually fitted. It can take the 91L fuel tank.
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And I think you will find that console is also available in a low version, exactly the same to look at, but around 3 inches lower but you won't get the 91lt tank under it. We find it better suited to the assault as you can feel a bit top heavy on the higher model and slightly insecure. The same option is also available on the sport console
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06 May 2009, 01:13
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Mr Flibble
Thanks everyone for the replies and good advice.
OK looks like the 5.5m Destroyer it is then.
As to what colours god only knowns.
Will opt for the XL transom and sports console, 91 litre console tank, underdeck trunking, tube top protection, bow cleat and closed bow locker.
Looking at either a 115hp Mariner Optimax or 115hp Tohatsu TLDI (anyone any preference?) E-tec is nice but too expensive.
As for trailer been looking at SBS and De Graaf. The De Graaf swing beam looks good and is a great price.
Will need to get down to Humber soon and have a look.
Ian, I'll drop you a line soon with a view to price on the above.
Thanks again.
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Get pressure relief valves fitted as well. Conventional wisdom says you don't need them if a light coloured tube like mine (orange), except that black wear patches (like mine has) get just as hot as black tubes and it will save a lot of worry on a hot day... I wish mine had them and wouldn't consider another boat without them.
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06 May 2009, 13:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Warrington/Anglesey
Make: Menai 480SR.
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsoooooooo 70hp
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 665
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Does anybody know the actual thickness of the Humber Destroyers transom; although it has supporting knees it looks to be a little on the light weight side to me!
I think the standard Humber A frames dont look to clever also IMHO.
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06 May 2009, 14:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Warrington/Anglesey
Make: Menai 480SR.
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsoooooooo 70hp
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 665
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ummm
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06 May 2009, 18:06
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Country: UK - Isle of Man
Town: Douglas
Length: no boat
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It's an optical illusion!!! The transom is radiused on the internal side so looks 'thin' in your photo, I am not aware of any problems with Humber transoms, maybe others know differently. The A Frame is a simple, relatively strong design, ideal for supporting nav lights, aerials etc. Much stronger double A Frames are also available.
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06 May 2009, 19:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: N.Wales/Southampton
Make: Zodiac
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda 15hp
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Plenty thick enough. Better pic here
James
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06 May 2009, 19:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: Incentive
Make: Humber Ocean Pro
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90TLDI
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Had a new humber in feb,not here to measure the transom but take it from me its certainly thick enough!!!
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06 May 2009, 20:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: NW& wherever the boat is!
Boat name: depends on m'mood!
Make: Humbers/15-24m cats
Length: 6m +
Engine: etec130/big volvos
MMSI: many and various
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never had a prob with a humber transom on any of the boats we have had and we do a deal of rough water training on them here so they get a bit of a pounding at times. The A frame as in those pictured has never been a problem but another one we have that is supposedly shaped to allow an aux o/b to fit in has a couple of welded joints where the vertical (sort off) bit meets the bit that curves over the tube. Those welds failed on both sides and needed a strengthening plate putting in when rewelded. I seem to think the later ones I have seen have a plate already fitted. If the frame is only there for lights, aerial and cos it looks nice they are adequate.
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07 May 2009, 09:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: Magic II
Make: Tohatsu 6.1
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude 115 E-tec
MMSI: 235050189
Join Date: Oct 2006
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You can see the weld that Dave mentions opening up on this photo.
Keith
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07 May 2009, 09:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: NW& wherever the boat is!
Boat name: depends on m'mood!
Make: Humbers/15-24m cats
Length: 6m +
Engine: etec130/big volvos
MMSI: many and various
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but ya cant see the blood leaking out of Pete's hand when he polished the new weld can ya
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07 May 2009, 09:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115 V4
MMSI: 235068784
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Those Humber A frames aren't the cheap to buy either.
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07 May 2009, 10:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Neither are the consoles compared to a "seconds" Barnet one.
A seconds Humber one was about £500 should have been £650, my seconds Barnet one was £150!
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07 May 2009, 11:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southport
Boat name: Qudos
Make: 5.4 Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 115 V4
MMSI: 235068784
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Quote:
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but ya cant see the blood leaking out of Pete's hand when he polished the new weld can ya
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