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25 September 2015, 21:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: Norfolk & East Coast
Make: Excedo
Length: 4m +
Engine: 70
Join Date: May 2013
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Do I need an A frame?
Hello
First rib: 4.5m, 70hp. Bow cushion, double bench seat behind console, twin individual seats at stern. No seats are jockey seats.
Do I need an A frame? I have the VHF aerial on the grab handle at the top of the console. Kind of stuck for the nav lights though.
Any pros and cons please? Thank you
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25 September 2015, 21:30
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
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If storage and height restrictions aren't a problem, then there's not much of an argument against an A-Frame. Great for fixing on VHF antenna, GPS, navigation lights, etc.
My boat is garaged so I opted to fit a detachable light-pole as height would be an issue, plus for the best reception VHF aerials need height, probably away from the receiving set. Navigation lights can be added to the console sides higher up.
Ideas: http://www.rib.net/forum/f37/boat-li...eas-45076.html
Fitting: http://www.rib.net/forum/f37/install...ole-52734.html
Adding the Royal Navy ensign... well that's just a bonus.
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25 September 2015, 21:34
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
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Apart from mounting lights, Antennas etc, A-frames are invaluable to hold onto whilst 'Relieving yourself' over the side.
Nasher.
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25 September 2015, 21:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Originally Posted by Uncle Nobby
......Do I need an A frame?..........
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Never confuse "Need" with "Want" Do you "need" an "A" frame? probably not, plenty of folk get by without. Do you "want" an "A" frame? do you really need to ask?
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25 September 2015, 21:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wakefield
Boat name: Bouncer
Make: Redbay Stormforce
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2x Honda 100 Hp
MMSI: 235025718
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,177
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Never confuse "Need" with "Want" Do you "need" an "A" frame? probably not, plenty of folk get by without. Do you "want" an "A" frame? do you really need to ask?
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Should be a couple kicking about don't you think 😜
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25 September 2015, 22:07
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Country: UK - England
Town: Norfolk & East Coast
Make: Excedo
Length: 4m +
Engine: 70
Join Date: May 2013
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Thanks peeps.
No height or storage issues, great light pole info.
Hadn't thought of a wee handle!
Useful place to bung stuff like aerial, flag, allround white light, nav lights, life ring, throw line etc.
I 'want' to myself, and therefore 'need' to the wife
I have moulded seat bases either side of the engine, so I don't have the option of bolting through the transom, unless with 'blind' fixings.
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26 September 2015, 08:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Nobby
Thanks peeps.
No height or storage issues, great light pole info.
Hadn't thought of a wee handle!
Useful place to bung stuff like aerial, flag, allround white light, nav lights, life ring, throw line etc.
I 'want' to myself, and therefore 'need' to the wife
I have moulded seat bases either side of the engine, so I don't have the option of bolting through the transom, unless with 'blind' fixings.
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I think you've answered your own question there, yes you do need an "A" frame. Be very careful how you fit it, don't underestimate the forces that can be applied when (not if) it gets lumpy. The last thing you want is it disappearing over the back
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26 September 2015, 10:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Hysucat
Make: Hysucat
Length: 8m +
Engine: Twin Suzuki 175's
MMSI: 235102645
Join Date: Jun 2013
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You really just want us to agree with you and say you do need one, don't you
I don't actually have one, the only thing I actually miss is somewhere good to fly a flag from. But then my boat is a little different in shape.
If I had a more normal shaped boat I would get one, they seem to finish the look off nicely as well as the small practical advantages they provide. Google a bit and there are loads of styles and types you can buy.
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26 September 2015, 11:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I think you've answered your own question there, yes you do need an "A" frame. Be very careful how you fit it, don't underestimate the forces that can be applied when (not if) it gets lumpy. The last thing you want is it disappearing over the back
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Indeed!....Ask Kerny about that one....
If you afford it Custom is the way to go,of course you get really lucky and pick one up second hand,but frankly unlikely.
Or you may consider up-sizing/grading to something with a few more "Bells and whistles"....surprising how adding extras can soon mount up finantialy.
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26 September 2015, 11:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
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Originally Posted by Maximus
Indeed!....Ask Kerny about that one....
If you afford it Custom is the way to go,of course you get really lucky and pick one up second hand,but frankly unlikely.
Or you may consider up-sizing/grading to something with a few more "Bells and whistles"....surprising how adding extras can soon mount up finantialy.
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Like Maxi says custom made is the way to go. :thumbup: DO NOT GET A FOLDING ONE...
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26 September 2015, 11:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: N. Devon
Boat name: (Not Another) Nutkin
Make: Highfield
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard, Honda 135
MMSI: 232036183
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Nobby
Thanks peeps.
I have moulded seat bases either side of the engine, so I don't have the option of bolting through the transom, unless with 'blind' fixings.
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A picture or two would be handy, can you go through the whole lot or do you have D rings or similar on the back you can adapt and use??
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26 September 2015, 20:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Norfolk & East Coast
Make: Excedo
Length: 4m +
Engine: 70
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 68
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Great, thank of the ideas.
Why not a folding one?
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26 September 2015, 20:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Norfolk & East Coast
Make: Excedo
Length: 4m +
Engine: 70
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 68
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"You really just want us to agree with you and say you do need one, don't you"
YES..!
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