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25 October 2020, 17:08
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Dory.
My mates looking at a dory. But it doesn’t appear to have a moulded deck. I thought all dorys had the unsinkable moulded deck construction? Anyone know anything about them. It’s a 14ft open dory. Maybe not a real one?
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25 October 2020, 17:43
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Dory is a generic term for the hull shape. Could be anything, even a self build.
Dell-Quay dorys are foam filled with a moulded deck and notorious for soaking up water and weighing a ton.
Orkney did similary dorys, moulded decks and dont tend to suffer the waterlogged foam.
Wilson flyer did lots of options, sometimes just the hull moulding for home completion, lots of them just finished in wooden trim.
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27 October 2020, 10:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by samt
Dory is a generic term for the hull shape. Could be anything, even a self build.
Dell-Quay dorys are foam filled with a moulded deck and notorious for soaking up water and weighing a ton.
Orkney did similary dorys, moulded decks and dont tend to suffer the waterlogged foam.
Wilson flyer did lots of options, sometimes just the hull moulding for home completion, lots of them just finished in wooden trim.
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Thanks Sam. The one he was looking at was moulded 2 years ago apparently. A big engine has put him off due to running costs.
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27 October 2020, 19:53
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If it's only two years old it will have "closed-cell" foam buoyancy so there won't be any issue with it soaking up water. I've owned a couple of them, Dell Quay and Shetland Stratos (Splash mould from the 15ft Dell Quay). Loved them in sheltered water but a very hard ride in the rough.
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27 October 2020, 20:33
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Originally Posted by Last Tango
If it's only two years old it will have "closed-cell" foam buoyancy so there won't be any issue with it soaking up water. I've owned a couple of them, Dell Quay and Shetland Stratos (Splash mould from the 15ft Dell Quay). Loved them in sheltered water but a very hard ride in the rough.
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+1 had a ridgid raider early model very hard ride
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30 October 2020, 20:33
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Thanks guys. I vowed never to go in one again about 25years ago. He’s looking for a 13-15fter with a 20hp max and there’s plenty of dory’s or dory style. He wants open boat, for fishing mostly in beaulieu river but the odd little jaunt. For less than 4K.
Other boats he’s asked me about are bonwitco. I prefer the look of the hull to a cathedral but no clue on them.
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30 October 2020, 21:51
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Bonwitco are good boats. I’ve had both a Bonwitco and a Dory roughly the same length and the Bonwitco was a far better boat.
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31 October 2020, 22:17
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I think a size for size the Bonwitco might have a more limited engine capacity if that's a thing that bothers him.
My 13ft Dellquay had a 40hp, very stable for fishing, quite fast and lots of space. If my drive hadn't ended up cluttered with four boats I would probably have kept it but very hard and wet ride when it blew up a bit.
My 15 foot dory had a 75hp and it was nowhere near the boat the 13ft one was. Engine too big, to heavy.....transom perilously close to the water and the engine-well didn't drain. Also became quite unstable at full throttle.
RIB.....the best solution
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02 November 2020, 08:56
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Thanks gents. I’ll keep looking with him. He’s dead set he doesn’t want a rib for fishing.
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02 November 2020, 10:06
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Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
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>>>a Bonwitco and a Dory roughly the same length and the Bonwitco was a far better boat.
Having used a Dory and owned a Bonwitco both around 4m overall I'd go Bonwitco of the two.
Re the Bonwitco being lower engine HP rated not really an issue as their hulls are very efficient so they go really well for a smaller OB.
Our old one below on Loch Awe... went really well with its 20hp... quicker than a light Aerotec with same size motor.
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02 November 2020, 10:16
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That’s a much better boat shape than a dory. Also, have you ever tried to row a dory or go over a wave of any size?? [emoji15]
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02 November 2020, 10:19
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I always fancied the Bonwitco 480 Fast Fisher model. Either with centre or offset small console and canvas pull up cuddy... like this one.
Yes all the Bonwitcos will slam more than a deep V RIB as their hull design flattens a lot towards the transom.... but it never worried us kept within their limits.
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02 November 2020, 12:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Tango
RIB.....the best solution
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As an ex-sibber and ex-ribber I must disagree with this
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Originally Posted by gtflash
Thanks gents. I’ll keep looking with him. He’s dead set he doesn’t want a rib for fishing.
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Obvious choice in that case is either unsinkable Boston Whaler or Ranieri at <5m size. More deck area than the equivalent size rib and no tubes. Ranieri have a deep V, in fact the larger 19s has a stepped hull as found on Scorpion ribs.
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18 November 2020, 12:34
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My family have had a dell quay for about 30 years, survived a lot of dumb stuff, including my dad sinking it once. They're basically indestructible, absolutely brilliant for beaching. fantastic ski boat too. bloody good fun to drive however they're unbelievably uncomfortable in the chop and if sand gets on the front when you hop on from the beach it has a habit of coming off as you go over bumps and hits your face at high speed. also if you drive like a complete idiot you can turn them over, don't ask how i know that...
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18 November 2020, 18:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Tango
If it's only two years old it will have "closed-cell" foam buoyancy so there won't be any issue with it soaking up water. I've owned a couple of them, Dell Quay and Shetland Stratos (Splash mould from the 15ft Dell Quay). Loved them in sheltered water but a very hard ride in the rough.
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Oh Yeah!
I have a soft spot for them and many good memories as a Younster ...Good Deck space ..stable on the water (if ..it's Flat!) ...Light ...Easy Towing/Launching ...Plenty of Bouyancey ..cheap to Buy and Run BUT ..
.Slamm (and Pitch!) in ANY rough ...
....like a Barn Door in a Tornado!...
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