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28 August 2009, 21:47
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Originally Posted by wavelength
bollox -someone needs to get out more!
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Well said that man.
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29 August 2009, 19:26
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I've only had the perfect conditions a hand full of times where I didn't need to get into the water. But then the slip I use is a very shallow grad.
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29 August 2009, 19:45
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[QUOTE=m chappelow;305731]
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Originally Posted by MIRO Stewart
Out of interest, why do you intend to get in the water for launch and recovery? Would it not be simpler and more prudent to do a level 2 and learn to put your boat on the trailer properly rather than buying a drysuit for the purpose of manhandling it on?? I dont mean to sound confrontational but this would seem more obvious to me. In addition, in this case all you need is a good set of waterproofs and some decent wellies!
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Bollox!, it depends on the facilities open to you whether you can do this or not. We need to use waders locally as the nearest place to get onshore dry means a 1/2 mile run round to the slip. Other places you can just use wellies or even nothing bar trainers and not get even damp as the facilities are better. It depends on what you have to use.
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29 August 2009, 21:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MIRO Stewart
Ou of interest, why do you intend to get in the water for launch and recovery? Would it not be simpler and more prudent to do a level 2 and learn to put your boat on the trailer properly rather than buying a drysuit for the purpose of manhandling it on??
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You may be surprised to learn that the PB2 course does not demand a huge amount of time spent on trailer work, sure many centres keep their teaching boat on a trailer and the launching and recovery is a part of their course; but simply "doing a level 2" is no guarantee of becoming an expert in L&R.
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29 August 2009, 22:05
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Originally Posted by malthouse
...but simply "doing a level 2" is no guarantee of becoming an expert in L&R.
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That's a shame, was going to send Willk on the course as he's got L&R on the wrong wellies
I'll pay for that one!
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29 August 2009, 22:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSP
That's a shame, was going to send Willk on the course as he's got L&R on the wrong wellies
I'll pay for that one!
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Hehe
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30 August 2009, 06:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by malthouse
You may be surprised to learn that the PB2 course does not demand a huge amount of time spent on trailer work, sure many centres keep their teaching boat on a trailer and the launching and recovery is a part of their course; but simply "doing a level 2" is no guarantee of becoming an expert in L&R.
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Absolutely correct. Some centres keep their boat(s) permanently afloat and teach launching and recovery as a theory exercise. Other centres launch and recover their boats every day, and either approach is fine within the training scheme. The PB2 syllabus has a fair degree of flexibility to spend more or less time on topics that are important to the people on the course - a good instructor will discuss clients' needs and tailor the course appropriately. If someone needs to learn launching and recovery techniques to a level that can't easily be taught as theory, he or she needs to choose a training provider who will do that for them (most will be happy to do so). The key is to make sure that you get what you want from training.
There have been various views expressed in this thread and, as usual, it illustrates that different conditions need different approaches. If you want to launch and keep your feet dry, that's possible, but you would be limited in where you can find a suitable slipway to do that. If you want to be able to launch in a greater variety of places, and at any state of the tide, you will need to learn different techniques and you will have to be prepared to get into the water to a greater extent.
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30 August 2009, 07:05
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Town: Up Norf
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JSP
That's a shame, was going to send Willk on the course as he's got L&R on the wrong wellies
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Thats what happens when you put them in front of you and write left and right on!
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30 August 2009, 09:14
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Originally Posted by JSP
Think I've read about ramming a coke bottle in to stretch it. But I just cut mine. Watch out if it's too tight. When I first tried mine on I ... struggled for what seem like an hour to get ..off. Can be very dangerous.
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Originally Posted by chewy
Thats what happens when you put them in front of you ...
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Don't think I'll be taking any advice on rubberwear from you "pair"
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30 August 2009, 09:21
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Don't think I'll be taking any advice on rubberwear from you "pair"
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I might have mentioned the coke bottle. Hasn't KY Jelly been mentioned yet as a seal lubricant. Dry suit seal not the ones that live in the sea!
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30 August 2009, 11:20
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30 August 2009, 12:23
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Town: NW& wherever the boat is!
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never met a seal yet who needed lubricating after Ive chatted to it but I did used to do a lot of diving with a guy who was a vet. He brought along the stuff that ya stick on yer arm before disappearing up the transom end of cows. We used it on diving masks to get a good seal once. Trouble was it sealed itself that tight you couldnt release the pressure by breathing into it and it needed prising off your face when back in the boat. Walked around with a red imprint of the mask on face for rest of the day.
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30 August 2009, 13:14
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Town: Southport
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Originally Posted by wavelength
never met a seal yet who needed lubricating after Ive chatted to it but I did used to do a lot of diving with a guy who was a vet. He brought along the stuff that ya stick on yer arm before disappearing up the transom end of cows. We used it on diving masks to get a good seal once. Trouble was it sealed itself that tight you couldnt release the pressure by breathing into it and it needed prising off your face when back in the boat. Walked around with a red imprint of the mask on face for rest of the day.
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Them seals near Barrow have no standards!
Was the cow transom glue recycled?
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30 August 2009, 13:31
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Lube not glue!
Wise words for today Mr Singleton, "don't use glue as a lube!"
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30 August 2009, 13:32
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
Lube not glue!
Wise words for today Mr Singleton, "don't use glue as a lube!"
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That's why we've been married so long!
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