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05 October 2012, 15:51
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Town: Glasgow
Boat name: snagglepuss
Make: Shetland
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Hi
we have just taken a clients 135 in and he wants less than 1K for it. still a mariner and a couple of years younger but basically the same engine and cheap.
as for who fault? sorry but I agree with the others i.e.. v hard to prove so it will all come done to does he believe he is wrong and even if he does will he have the decency to do anything about it.
Dave
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05 October 2012, 20:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
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Posted you a private on the above.
The problem I have with this whole thing is the engine ran fine apart from the floats not seating every time !! Started easily,pulled strongly, sounded good, circulated water fine. Had a marine engineer strip/clean the float chambers whilst on Kintyre & he thought that it was a good engine & sounded fine.
Trust me if it had gone bang between Carradale & Arran on full revs I'd have thought 'BUGGER' like probably everybody else who's ever owned a boat !!! However when a few weeks later you put it into somebodies workshop and they manage to damage it & take no responsibility you have to ask the question ?????
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06 October 2012, 10:39
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Town: Bangor
Boat name: Lencraft 4.8m
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Pretty sure Preston marine are breaking a 115 mariner if you go down that route.
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06 October 2012, 12:44
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Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
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Thanks for that, I'll give them a ring to see what's available. Cheers.
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06 October 2012, 12:47
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Tbh a repair is going to stand you a fair amount so I'd go with that 135 and sell yours on, you'd get around £500 for yours and you'd have more power to boot!
Not often I agree with Dave
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06 October 2012, 13:29
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Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
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I've already spoken to Dave & Cameron this morning. Nice fellas to deal with. Going to write to the firm this week but having spoken to them on the phone there's not a lot of help forthcoming ! Given that boating's a small world & customer loyalty should be a priority I've been very disappointed with this episode !
I'm a realist & realise **** happens but sometimes you've got to bite the bullet in business and go that extra yard as in the long term repeat custom in annual services/ winterising parts etc add up to quite a bit. Used to be in business myself selling/servicing high value items (shotguns/clothing) in the 80's & sometimes it cost me the profit+ to sort things out but those people came back year after year so long term we were the winners.
Can't escape the fact that something went wrong in the workshop so sort it out, don't just tell the customer his engine's now a pile of junk !!!
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06 October 2012, 14:16
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
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I'm welling up here.
My advice is pretty much as has already been said. Sell for parts and move on. You could put on a Honda 90 4-stroke. One here: http://www.ardoran.co.uk/content/pag...d=used_engines
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07 October 2012, 19:59
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Here's another option
251164098890 eBay that. Should find a speed boat package with 135 and trailer, £1,550 or best offer. Move the boat/trailer on for £800 sell your motor for £500 and you almost have a free upgrade
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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07 October 2012, 20:13
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Town: Bromsgrove
Boat name: Kick-Ass !
Make: PAC/Artic 22
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Engine: 250hp Yamaha
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Here's another option
251164098890 eBay that. Should find a speed boat package with 135 and trailer, £1,550 or best offer. Move the boat/trailer on for £800 sell your motor for £500 and you almost have a free upgrade
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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Err I am looking for a pair 115 or 135
Comp reading on viewing one this week was uh uhhhh 135 on a speed boat
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07 October 2012, 20:36
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Was going to buy it blind myself but its too far for what it is. Is a single 150 any good
Also know of a Blackmax 200 available soon, around £1,700 I think
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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07 October 2012, 20:59
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Was going to buy it blind myself but its too far for what it is. Is a single 150 any good
Also know of a Blackmax 200 available soon, around £1,700 I think
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Next build has to be twins been put of to many times now
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07 October 2012, 21:02
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Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
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Fingers crossed on the Glasgow option!
Been a right sod this last year with the engines. Had that robber Dan Cooper hanging onto £1600 for six months for no engine & now had my Mariner destroyed at the dealers workshop !!!
On the up-side had a brilliant two weeks at Carradale with the family this year & already booked for the same next year.
Really appreciate all the positive posts on here & hopefully will get sorted soon. Still stung by the negative attitude at the dealers but a couple of bottles of wine with the Mrs will take the edge off.........
Looked at the boat/engine option on ebay but if I turned up with it I might be in the divorce courts as well !!!!
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07 October 2012, 21:02
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Nice 150 here tho
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19 October 2012, 17:22
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Update to this sorry saga !!!
Went to collect my boat today, engine completely dismantled into a number of boxes. No apology or admission of liability and a bill of £476-20 including £45 + vat for stripping the engine to see what they'd broken !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Needless to say I won't be heading back up to Skipton in the near or distant future......
If anyone wants to buy a Mariner 115 in bits (fully serviced) with a damaged piston/bore please let me know ??
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19 October 2012, 23:20
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Town: north ayrshire
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hope you gave them a "rubber" cheque
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19 October 2012, 23:37
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Wouldn't stoop to their level !!!!! Twots. £500 to wreck a perfectly good engine, that & £500 to get my ML through it's mot today. At least there's a bit of malt left in the cupboard........
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19 October 2012, 23:42
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Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
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Length: 5m +
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I agree with you
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20 October 2012, 09:44
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Update to this sorry saga !!!
Went to collect my boat today, engine completely dismantled into a number of boxes. No apology or admission of liability and a bill of £476-20 including £45 + vat for stripping the engine to see what they'd broken !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Needless to say I won't be heading back up to Skipton in the near or distant future......
If anyone wants to buy a Mariner 115 in bits (fully serviced) with a damaged piston/bore please let me know ??
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Not wanting to rub salt in your wounds how much for the engine sir
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20 October 2012, 10:02
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Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
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I'm just waiting to speak to a couple of people on Monday to see if it's worth going through any legal remedy before I get the engine moved on.
I've no idea what it's worth in boxes but everything's there & was working perfectly until they managed to clip a port with the piston !!
The £476-20 stung a bit given the circumstances !!
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20 October 2012, 11:39
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No probs looking couple 115 or 135 to build as matching pair ed
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