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12 November 2010, 13:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
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Originally Posted by Philippos
sure! but i feel that the boat does not have a "grasp" with the water, in the slightest wave the prop will be out of the water because the engine is too high! also i dont have trim! does a different prop going to fix all these?
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It looks a bit high but if you don't want to try and sort it out the easy way then it's up to you!
Every boat is different and only someone with experience with your make and model of boat with the same power at the same height will have the definitive answer - my advice try a couple of different props first - your choice!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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12 November 2010, 14:22
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Member
Country: Sweden
Town: Stockholm
Make: KR7
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude 150 H.O
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Powerlift??? Canīt you lower the engine then?
I tried to google falcon 700 rsr and on the pics i saw it was the same high on a race boat. So i guess you can lower it 5-6cm???
Ask the manufacturer falcon or rib-x...
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12 November 2010, 14:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
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Originally Posted by Philippos
hi!!
the anticavitation plate is about 6cm above the hull bottom so i installed a power lift but it couldn't lower the engine because the hydraulic steering will hit the transom. Now when running the boat the anticavitation plate is about 4 cm above the water!
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My motor is quite high on the transom (about the same as yours) but I don't get any excess vetilation that I've noticed in the short time I've used it so far.
Do your etec's overheat at all? Does the prop ventilate in turns?
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12 November 2010, 15:59
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: athens
Make: falcon 700 rsr
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 e-tec
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 12
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Originally Posted by joakimhansson
Powerlift??? Canīt you lower the engine then?
I tried to google falcon 700 rsr and on the pics i saw it was the same high on a race boat. So i guess you can lower it 5-6cm???
Ask the manufacturer falcon or rib-x...
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nope as i saw in other ribs the powerlift "lifts" the engine above the transom height not below!
i did that!!! this was my mistake that i went to the manufacturer here in Greece and he recommended the lift!
i payed the lift and the installation and now he wants now to pay for the transom cut!
i found a photo that shows the cut in the transom with the new mold!
http://nauticalcenter.gr/wp-content/...0/dsc00153.jpg
i also found a pic of my boat!
http://nauticalcenter.gr/wp-content/...on-700/100.jpg
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12 November 2010, 16:02
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Country: Greece
Town: athens
Make: falcon 700 rsr
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Engine: 200 e-tec
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
My motor is quite high on the transom (about the same as yours) but I don't get any excess vetilation that I've noticed in the short time I've used it so far.
Do your etec's overheat at all? Does the prop ventilate in turns?
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yes the prop ventilates in turns almost immediately when i turn!
nope it doesnt overheats!
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12 November 2010, 16:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philippos
yes the prop ventilates in turns almost immediately when i turn!
nope it doesnt overheats!
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Cookee know what he's talking about, go with props first. I run a 4 blade and I have been told that they are more tolerant of being run near the surface, I don't know how true that is but surely worth a go before you start cutting your boat about. If it's not overheating then thats one less thing to worry about.
See if you can borrow some props rather than buy them...
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12 November 2010, 16:41
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: athens
Make: falcon 700 rsr
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ok i 'll try it!
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12 November 2010, 18:13
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Country: Sweden
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Try to contact the owner of these... Last one is from greece?
Or search for owner of falcon or rib-x 700
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12 November 2010, 18:36
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
Cookee know what he's talking about, go with props first. I run a 4 blade and I have been told that they are more tolerant of being run near the surface, I don't know how true that is but surely worth a go before you start cutting your boat about. If it's not overheating then thats one less thing to worry about.
See if you can borrow some props rather than buy them...
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More blades in the water at any given time. Made a huge difference on my boat, was really struggling for grip with 3 blades
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12 November 2010, 19:31
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: athens
Make: falcon 700 rsr
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 e-tec
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joakimhansson
Try to contact the owner of these... Last one is from greece?
Or search for owner of falcon or rib-x 700
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i found a previous owner here in Greece and i hope to arrange a meeting!
the second video is from a Greek guy in NY!
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12 November 2010, 21:28
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Member
Country: Austria
Town: Triest
Make: 7 m
Length: 7m +
Engine: 175 e-tec
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philippos
i found a previous owner here in Greece and i hope to arrange a meeting!
the second video is from a Greek guy in NY!
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hi,
the e tecs like to run high so its good that you can see CV plat at WOT, falcons are not easy to drive you have to be on trimm all the time what makes it little shit to ride .
do you have this going up and down like a dolphin at calm see?
with RPM do you reach max. with this set up?
about the low engine you have to throtle down slower so that your transom wave does not swop over the etec , or give a little throttle jap when the transom wave reachs you.
are you in athens?
have a look in here there is a big falcon bolg about manos an there you see how to trimm this tuna.
regards max
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13 November 2010, 00:17
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: athens
Make: falcon 700 rsr
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 e-tec
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Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by max
hi,
the e tecs like to run high so its good that you can see CV plat at WOT, falcons are not easy to drive you have to be on trimm all the time what makes it little shit to ride .
do you have this going up and down like a dolphin at calm see?
with RPM do you reach max. with this set up?
about the low engine you have to throtle down slower so that your transom wave does not swop over the etec , or give a little throttle jap when the transom wave reachs you.
are you in athens?
have a look in here there is a big falcon bolg about manos an there you see how to trimm this tuna.
regards max
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yes i live in Athens!
yes it does this dolphin thing! except i put some weight in-front of the console! about 150kg with me (120kg) behind the console!
4900rpm max!
i now how to slow down smoothly but its annoying and i worry seeing the engine so close to the water!
i have already found manos from your forum and i wait for him to see it!
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13 November 2010, 07:45
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Member
Country: Austria
Town: Triest
Make: 7 m
Length: 7m +
Engine: 175 e-tec
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 24
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jasu,
i would not lower the engien if you can just reach 4900 rpms.
trie a 19 inch viper ,i also use on my 175 etec and this props they fitt on this compo.
did you ever try to trimm the etec total out in calm see in the fine trimm,to reach more RPM , if yes did the prop got air?
in turns you have to trim down that the prop does not get air and to seed out off turns is allmost impossible with this hull.
you have to get your RPM up because this is not good for your etec.
send me an mail max.sammer@yahoo.de because it could be that i will be in athens next weeks.
dont trust falcon manos in athens to mutch.
max
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13 November 2010, 09:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
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Here's a pic (not a good one) of my motor, quite high on the transom.
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13 November 2010, 12:53
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: athens
Make: falcon 700 rsr
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 e-tec
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by max
jasu,
i would not lower the engien if you can just reach 4900 rpms.
trie a 19 inch viper ,i also use on my 175 etec and this props they fitt on this compo.
did you ever try to trimm the etec total out in calm see in the fine trimm,to reach more RPM , if yes did the prop got air?
in turns you have to trim down that the prop does not get air and to seed out off turns is allmost impossible with this hull.
you have to get your RPM up because this is not good for your etec.
send me an mail max.sammer@yahoo.de because it could be that i will be in athens next weeks.
dont trust falcon manos in athens to mutch.
max
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i want to try a 4blade 19" if i find any!
i think yes i gets easily air!
Now its late! i know it from now on .. you mean manos the manufacturer??
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13 November 2010, 12:55
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: athens
Make: falcon 700 rsr
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 e-tec
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
Here's a pic (not a good one) of my motor, quite high on the transom.
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mine its a bit lower than yours!
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14 November 2010, 11:42
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#37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philippos
mine its a bit lower than yours!
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Exactly, therefore before cutting your transom about take some advice from people on here and experiment with some props...
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14 November 2010, 13:06
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#38
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
Exactly, therefore before cutting your transom about take some advice from people on here and experiment with some props...
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if the props don't work use a jack plate instead of transom cutting
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14 November 2010, 13:20
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#39
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: athens
Make: falcon 700 rsr
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 e-tec
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
if the props don't work use a jack plate instead of transom cutting
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this was the wrong advive from the manufacturer... i did put a power lift but the lift does not lower the engine!
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19 November 2010, 18:55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
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Posts: 3,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
if the props don't work use a jack plate instead of transom cutting
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Stu, do you have a name or link for any jack plates that lower the motor?
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