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21 April 2004, 11:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
Make: Halmatic PAC22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140.5 Mermaid
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Fantasy rib design
A lot of threads on this forum deal with the inadequacies of RIB design, the divers want more deck space and the cruisers want more seating and so on. Money no object and within the bounds of reason (well maybe) what would be your ideal design of RIB?
For me the ideal RIB would 6.5 mtrs long sea kind deep V.(got that)
It would have an inboard 250hp diesel fitted below a flat deck (yes no engine housing). (not got this)
I’m toying with the idea of duel drive systems, jet for inshore close quart work and outdrive / surface drive for deep sea. (Stupid? I can’t decide)
I would love to have a seating system a bit like a people mover so that you can have a verity of different seating layouts to meet different needs.
I would want very reliable electronic and I hate the all the wires so a CAN / BUS system would be good or even better wireless.
I would want an A frame you can stand on (you can see so much more).
I would want self cleaning tubes that do not puncture and self inflate.
I would love a remote control system that allowed you to drop yourself and passengers of on a beach and that would then motor the RIB in to deep water where it would anchor (on it’s own) and wait for you to call it in to collect you. (cool)
And a fridge always full of beer (that I won’t drink because I’m responsible)
Oh and I don’t want to pay more than £1000 for it.
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21 April 2004, 11:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Sound good to me I would like to add a retractable roof to keep the wife & kids happy on those not so nice days out!
Nick
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21 April 2004, 12:13
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Country: Denmark
Town: Copenhagen
Boat name: Nemesis
Make: CAPE 79
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki 250 4 stroke
Join Date: Dec 2001
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What about a toilet for when you have to go, after all those no drikable beers in the fridge.
And a nice bed if you get caught out and the weather turns bad.
All this needs to fold under the deck, to keep the deck space clean for you dive kit.
And the deck can't be to high, then you won't be able to get back into the boat after the dive.
Rene
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21 April 2004, 12:33
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Country: Ireland
Town: Carigaline/Baltimore
Boat name: XS-600
Make: XS-Ribs
Length: 6m +
Engine: Merc Optimax 150 XL
Join Date: Feb 2004
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How about a folding hydraulic ladder to make getting back in that little bit easier. Or failing that one of these:
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21 April 2004, 12:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Weymouth
Boat name: Splitz
Make: Ring
Length: 6m +
Engine: Honda 130
MMSI: 235015866
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Found 1 item on your list, wireless autopilot. Dont know about range doh!
autopilot
Nor anchoring just get it to drive around in small circles.
What about a petrol engine say, Alfa 33, Subaru or Beetle any boxer type engine. That may fit below deck.
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21 April 2004, 12:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Whitstable
Boat name: Tango
Make: Avon and Narwhal2.4m
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60HP Yamaha
Join Date: Oct 2002
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I'd fit a heat seeking rocket launcher to take out those damn jet skiers, wind surfers, kite surfers,water skiers, sailing boats, med style RIBs, Northerners and small fishing boats, and a set of counter measures in case someone has the same idea but a dislike of RIBS.
maybe also a BBQ and beer fridge too
Now is that asking to much !!!!
Rat
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21 April 2004, 13:20
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Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
Make: Halmatic PAC22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140.5 Mermaid
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steedthrust
......petrol engine say, Alfa 33, Subaru or Beetle any boxer type engine. That may fit below deck.
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Boxer engine would be good or a Wankel engine, like they say ‘you can beat an egg but you cannot beat a wankel’. Or have I mixed up my sayings
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21 April 2004, 13:23
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Country: UK - England
Town: Torbay
Boat name: Marlin
Make: PBS humber 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: 115 optimax!!
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 352
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21 April 2004, 14:05
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Country: Greece
Town: Athens
Boat name: Baby Boomer
Make: Marco
Length: 6.4m
Engine: Mariner 175EFI
Join Date: Mar 2004
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More wishes and some electrogeek links
Howabout an electric motor (or two or three or four), powered by a bank of LiIon batts, charged by a PV panel bank and an auxiliary petrol or diesel genny, situated under the console, for when its cloudy.
Wishful thinking?
Nope!
check this link if you like...
http://www.evparts.com/firstpage.php
Imagine a bank of four 35hp rated motors coupled to a two speed gearbox, overvoltaged to produce approx 1.5 times their rated outpout. The torque these babies give is spectacular and comes from 0rpm. They could drive a custom prop to fully exploit the torque and ........ stop me I'm going wild here.
PLUS ......... with N O sound. Like sailing!
Still I wonder what would happen to the batts in a marine environment
For all who are drooling over kilowatts here are some interesting links.
http://evcl.com/914/
http://www.evuk.co.uk/
http://www.econogics.com/ev/evboats.htm
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21 April 2004, 14:07
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Country: UK - England
Town: Nutbourne
Boat name: Renegade
Make: Porter
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140 Tohatsu
MMSI: 235022904
Join Date: Dec 2003
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How about a Teleport system
It would save all that lugging around on a trailer.
Beam me to the Caribean, Scotty.
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21 April 2004, 15:50
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Country: Other
Make: Ribtec
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha F225
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For me, it would have to be the Goblin Teasmaid
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21 April 2004, 16:14
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Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
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21 April 2004, 17:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
Make: Halmatic PAC22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140.5 Mermaid
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteshoes
For me, it would have to be the Goblin Teasmaid
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I've got a gobbling teasmaid
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21 April 2004, 23:06
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Country: UK - England
Town: Margate / Ramsgate
Boat name: Bumbl
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
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mmmm... i think we are all missing the point here. I've got a RIB because i like boating 'with' the elements. That is why i never see myself with a cabin RIB, and if i wanted a floating caravan i would go and buy a Regal, Binliner or something like that.
Engine under the floor is a valid point, but mine hangs off the back which is good enough.
My flask provides hot drink and my cool bag cold beer.
6 months after fitting out my own RIB to an extremely high standard things are starting to subcome to the elements (nothing a day's maintance before the Scilies wont fix) and i am, therefore, quite adiment that no-frills is 100% the only aproach to RIBing, it'll simply break otherwise.
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22 April 2004, 10:25
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Country: UK - England
Town: nr Lymington
Boat name: JU-JU
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Engine: 140.5 Mermaid
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I take your point about cabins and caravans etc and I agree that simple is good and more gadgets tends to equal more unreliability, but there is no real reason why. Cars used to quickly rust (6 months for an SDI). Now, generally speaking, they last the expected ‘life time’ (doesn’t make complete sense but you know what I mean).
Why things on boats should last any less time is only based on our expectation of there performance. Look at the thread about Silva radios, just because they are cheap does not mean that they should last any less that expected yet this is what some people are saying.
But hay, this is fantasy RIB, go on let your imagination go, If you want ththings to last for ever say so.
I've been thinking about hydrostatic drive, motor straight into a hydraulic pump, hydraulic motor out the back. No prop shafts to line up, the main motor could be anywhere, hydraulics could run other thing (winch, bow thrusters etc)………I wonder..
Incidentally I do not agree about ‘hanging the engine out the back is good enough’ without the engine there the transom becomes a very useful place, to get in and out could not be easier especially if you stand on the leg.
Des
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22 April 2004, 11:01
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Country: UK - England
Town: Whitstable
Boat name: Tango
Make: Avon and Narwhal2.4m
Length: 4m +
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22 April 2004, 11:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
if i wanted a floating caravan i would go and buy a Regal, Binliner or something like that.
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You haven't been reading the thread on Boatmad now have you, Daniel? http://www.boatmadforum.co.uk/showth...p?threadid=205
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22 April 2004, 20:07
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary Des
I take your point about cabins and caravans etc and I agree that simple is good and more gadgets tends to equal more unreliability, but there is no real reason why. Cars used to quickly rust (6 months for an SDI). Now, generally speaking, they last the expected ‘life time’ (doesn’t make complete sense but you know what I mean).
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Firstly it was an SD1 not SDI
Secondly I had 2 of these cars abd they were way ahead of their time - neither rusted at all although they were the last of them - 1984 and 1987 to be exact.
I wish I had kept my 1987 vitesse - it would be worth 15k now!!!
Brilliant handling and great performance - a true muscle car and used in BTCC until they went all wimpy!
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22 April 2004, 20:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Originally Posted by Richard B
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Those boatmadders!! They're a laugh a minute.
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22 April 2004, 20:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Used to love them, even the 2.8 was good. Janspeed (I think, might have been someone else) actually built a turboed v8 one. Damn good cars in their day.
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