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19 November 2012, 22:31
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Refer to post 7 in this thread.
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In this specific instance, with an etec, the issue would not have arisen.
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19 November 2012, 22:43
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Originally Posted by kerny
Yep paddles are hard work, I had to use them as well on my china boat bloody hard work and that was with two of us paddling
Could you not fit an axillary bracket or is there not enough room for that either ?
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Possibly room for the bracket, though it would be very tight and aux would have to be installed inboard until needed. Fitting it whilst afloat could be pretty awkward too given the styling of the boat.
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19 November 2012, 22:44
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Country: UK - England
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Get yourself some nyloc nuts, best 20p you'll spend
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Yep, I'll definitely be doing that
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19 November 2012, 22:46
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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Had something similar a few years back when my outboard overheated and went into a pathetic limp home mode. It was just past sunset and we were on our way back from France about to enter the tricky passages around the Ecrehoes with fairly strong tide. Could only manage a couple of knots headway so decided the safest thing to do was call for assistance sooner rather than later. No shame at all.
Some of our younger more flippant contibutors may not remember teletext, but it was made public on the local news page.
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19 November 2012, 22:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NSS
Possibly room for the bracket, though it would be very tight and aux would have to be installed inboard until needed. Fitting it whilst afloat could be pretty awkward too given the styling of the boat.
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Hmm, see what you mean, looks like your stuck with paddles.
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19 November 2012, 22:59
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Country: UK - England
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 521
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
Hmm, see what you mean, looks like your stuck with paddles.
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Yep, or get a rag and stick to use in emergencies - not that there was any breeze out there yesterday (except when the RedJet went by!).
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19 November 2012, 23:04
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Get yourself some nyloc nuts, best 20p you'll spend
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I concur, and check 'em after service time. Every time!
If the cables are wrapped in insulation over the cable/connector joint, peel a bit back and check them. If they are crimped connections, I'd say check them very well - I had a day out ruined by a poor crimped connection that worked loose/r
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20 November 2012, 00:55
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,299
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
In this specific instance, with an etec, the issue would not have arisen.
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Fair play, you don't half talk some shite.
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20 November 2012, 06:49
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Country: USA
Town: Torrance
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Only thing that was a possible alternative was calling VTS on 12 and explaining to them - they could have advised commercial traffic of your position. Then make the call to CG to advise of situation. Would buy you some time to assess if you could fix it (they would probably sent LB anyway).
Note this is typed from a comfy sofa in the dry, light and warm room
SDG
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20 November 2012, 10:47
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Member
Country: France
Town: Huisnes sur Mer
Boat name: Raufoss
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 789
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDGANDER
Only thing that was a possible alternative was calling VTS on 12 and explaining to them - they could have advised commercial traffic of your position. Then make the call to CG to advise of situation. Would buy you some time to assess if you could fix it (they would probably sent LB anyway).
Note this is typed from a comfy sofa in the dry, light and warm room
SDG
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And the beauty of calling VTS after the pan pan is that VTS would of called SP ( southampton patrol, harbour master's launch) who would probably have been out on patrol near you . SP would have towed you out of the shipping lanes and (if possible) stayed with you until help arrived. If SP for some reason was unavailable and you were causing a real concern for shipping then we would have beed dispatched to pull you out of the way. ( the blue tugs at the end of the Esso jetty)..... If your lucky the boys would have given you a cup of tea too :-)
Simon
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20 November 2012, 16:40
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#31
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Country: UK - England
Length: no boat
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Thanks SDG/Simon. Must admit I didn't consider calling VTS.
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20 November 2012, 18:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,069
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Call to the coastguard was the right thing to do.
Whether it was a Pan Pan or just a call to advise of the situation they do appreciate being called early.
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20 November 2012, 20:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Fair play, you don't half talk some shite.
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A tad harsh, go easy on the lad he's only a bairn. He does have a point though, once the Etec is started, it's independent of the battery. You can remove the battery & it'll keep going, it will probably blow the charging circuit in the EMM though.
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20 November 2012, 22:48
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Lymington Hampshire
Boat name: Hot Lemon
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
MMSI: 235
Join Date: May 2002
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Totally the right decision and Solent are so good to hear when things are going wrong.been there too.
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20 November 2012, 23:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: cornwall
Boat name: nothing
Make: rib eye 430
Length: 4m +
Engine: tatsu 50
MMSI: 666
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,915
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy
In hindsight - should have got an etec!
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Ha ha had exactly the same problem a few years back , new boat with an etec . Ok the motor didn't stop , but the ignition lights etc all came on so i switched off the engine to check for a problem , then it wouldn't start again .
I guess the etec did allow me to carry on and switch off when it suited me .
i didn't really know to start and you get a little worried very quickly , drifting on a windy day isn't the place to find out how badly the dealer has installed the electrics on a new boat .
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20 November 2012, 23:59
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,299
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
it will probably blow the charging circuit in the EMM though.
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What, an EMM failure on an etec? Surely not?
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21 November 2012, 08:06
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
What, an EMM failure on an etec? Surely not?
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Aye! Still waiting for mine ;>(
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21 November 2012, 11:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Hawk
Make: Protector
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2x 250 Yamahas
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 28
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It was 'Clyde of Dartmouth' as their other boat is 'Bonnie of Dartmouth'! Talking to the Skipper last night who said he was more than happy to help and glad that you have got it sorted. Can happen to anyone and just hope someone does the same for me if ever.........
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21 November 2012, 13:11
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Country: UK - England
Length: no boat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewN
It was 'Clyde of Dartmouth' as their other boat is 'Bonnie of Dartmouth'! Talking to the Skipper last night who said he was more than happy to help and glad that you have got it sorted. Can happen to anyone and just hope someone does the same for me if ever.........
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Hi Andrew, I obviously misheard the name, but appreciate you passing on my thanks. Suffice to say, if I ever have the opportunity to return the favour to another boat user, I won't hesitate to do so.
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21 November 2012, 19:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Winchester
Boat name: The Rubber Duck
Make: Avon 3.10
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: May 2009
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My concern is that if this happens to me, my VHF would be as useless as everything else that relies on the battery.
I do have the Solent CC telephone number in my mobile.
For what its worth I think you did exactly the right thing, and I learn a lot from reading these experiences that get shared.
Well done and thanks for sharing.
Ribtecer
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