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26 February 2010, 16:57
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ferryman ribs - are they that bad?
just saw a ferryman which has some good features but read there was something about big yellow busting up in cornwall, were all the ribs the same?
no stringers? no backing?
this is a 2002 boat has a decent engine Volvo kad 32
any opinions welcome
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26 February 2010, 17:31
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The MIAB report regarding the construction of 'Big Yellow' would be comical if not so worrying. Why should the boat you're considering be put together any differently? I wouldn't touch one. 
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26 February 2010, 17:41
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Buy something thats decent, even if the one your looking at is fine you may struggle to sell it on.
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26 February 2010, 17:49
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Why indeed? If you wanted a small (6-7m) Ferryman for personal use, and you NEVER wanted to sell it again, I'd say why not? A friend has a 6.5 and it's a fantastic, sturdy rib with excellent sea-keeping qualities. The hulls are splashed Rapiers and bear a striking similarity to some of the smaller Parkers  . The Fisheries College in Greencastle have a very nice example that they use as a safety/training boat - they don't seem to be sweating it too much.
The problems seem to have arisen when Ferryman "stretched" the design out to 9m without additional structural support in the hull - a disaster that rightly sank the company, as well as Big Yellow.
I have heard that existing Ferryman ribs cannot be coded without belowdeck inspection (gutting).
MAIB report
*cough* Redbay *cough* 
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26 February 2010, 17:52
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That link opens the rib.net home page for some reason?
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26 February 2010, 18:07
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Originally Posted by chewy
That link opens the rib.net home page for some reason?
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Thnx, fixed
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26 February 2010, 18:07
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The problems seem to have arisen when Ferryman "stretched" the design out to 9m without additional structural support in the hull -
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'Sticking' the pods and console down with a squirt of mastic and a handful of sef-tappers didn't add to Big Yellow's structural integrity any, this was nothing to do with the hull construction. The whole thing was a 'lash-up'. 
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26 February 2010, 18:11
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'Sticking' the pods and console down with a squirt of mastic and a handful of sef-tappers.... The whole thing was a 'lash-up'. |
Bl**dy DIY ribs 
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26 February 2010, 18:11
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Thnx, fixed |
Still opens the homepage for me?
http://www.maib.gov.uk/publications/...big_yellow.cfm
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26 February 2010, 18:15
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Still opens the homepage for me?
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No srsly, it's fixed! 
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26 February 2010, 18:18
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Bl**dy DIY ribs |
No self-respecting DIYer would build a boat as poorly for his own use.
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26 February 2010, 18:21
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No srsly, it's fixed! |
Third time lucky....
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26 February 2010, 18:33
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My work here is done...
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26 February 2010, 19:03
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On the plus side they might be taken a bit more care over the lay up now.
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26 February 2010, 19:12
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On the plus side they might be taken a bit more care over the lay up now.
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Are they still in business? 
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26 February 2010, 19:17
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Suprisingly yes, got shock when I googled them and their site popped up. Don't look too bad all things said!
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26 February 2010, 19:24
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Suprisingly yes, got shock when I googled them and their site popped up. Don't look too bad all things said!
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Fate is strangely whimsical tonight Chewy 
They're buster than a bust thing. That's the Greencastle Rib on the front page though - nice wee yoke.
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26 February 2010, 19:25
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Scrub that. I've just read Willko's post. The Ferryman will be getting paid no more.
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26 February 2010, 19:37
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dont speak to soon
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Scrub that. I've just read Willko's post. The Ferryman will be getting paid no more. |
I think I see the old builder currently selling an avon adventurer rib over on that other boat selling website which sounds like the lunar landing module.
thanks for all the comments shame about the company but does apear in report that a few aspects were lacking in construction etc.
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26 February 2010, 19:38
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Quote:
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The Ferryman will be getting paid no more. |
Ya think?
http://www.apolloduck.ie/feature.phtml?id=133694
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Yes Wildwords - I was just posting that ad but you beat me to it. Us Donegal lads are quick on the Draw ;-)
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