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10 September 2010, 08:41
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Country: Other
Town: Gas station
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 60 HP
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 40
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4.8m ribcraft looking like a decent option, then. just read an old magazine article saying it is £7.5K new all in with trailer, 60hp engine and VAT, was 2006 though.
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10 September 2010, 10:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,493
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Blimey - that is a bit out of touch - getting on for double that now I should think...
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10 September 2010, 10:26
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,671
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Originally Posted by Xk59D
for reference my 5.6m avon is actually 5.9m total length with the outboard down
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Yep, good example of LOA vs paper. I gained something like 4" when I swapped my old Yam 55 (long, low case, stuck out a mile from the transom) for the Merc (3 cyl short, tall case). Might be worth asking or measuring engines too.
Also w.r.t. engines, I have to move the stop pin on the clamps when I park it vs afloat - the position for sailing means the tail of the cav plate hits the wall first. By going "full in" I gain another 2".
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Originally Posted by Xk59D
and thats not including the 1m sticking out the front on the drawbar.
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Yep. Braked hitches take up a lot of room. One option is to be creative - as I said before, use the solid hull length rather than the "on paper LOA". that will give you a more appropriate sized chassis. Then combine it with a creative snubber This is an old Snipe variant (now sold by Mersea Trailers) - apologies for the pic quality, I had just craned it across form it's old deathtrap trailer and only had my phone to hand). As you can see, I've reduced the hitch overhang to about half a metre. (and the winch has been packed out so it pulls straight since that was taken)
Net result - 5.3m (on paper) boat fits a 5.7m garage.
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15 September 2010, 15:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Warrington/Anglesey
Make: Menai 480SR.
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsoooooooo 70hp
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 665
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Snowsports1 you have a pm.
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18 September 2010, 20:15
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Gas station
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 60 HP
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 40
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looks like i am going for a new bombard SB500 with 60HP mariner. spent the last two days at southampton boat show and seen every rib going. The bombard seems a great buy.
please let me know if you think it is the right boat!
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18 September 2010, 21:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucester
Boat name: Lunasea
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzi 140
MMSI: 232005050
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,000
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Hi Snowsport,
Welcome to Ribnet.
You seem to be in the same situation I was, wanting to introduce a young family to the water.
I'll pm you with my experience & suggestions
Bob
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18 September 2010, 22:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Originally Posted by snowsports1
please let me know if you think it is the right boat!
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Here's a clue, if it doesn't begin with R, O, H, or possibly an A with a SR after it, don't buy it.
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18 September 2010, 22:26
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Redbay supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: onn de moov
Boat name: bote
Make: kevvin
Length: 4m +
Engine: jett dryve
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 455
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Originally Posted by Mollers
R, O, H, or possibly an A with a SR after it, don't buy it.
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orl yew nead iz a e an e an a L an yorr abowt rite
wIlf
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18 September 2010, 22:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Originally Posted by wiLlfish
orl yew nead iz a e an e an a L an yorr abowt rite
wIlf
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Yep, buy an Eel.
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18 September 2010, 22:36
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Redbay supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: onn de moov
Boat name: bote
Make: kevvin
Length: 4m +
Engine: jett dryve
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 455
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Here's a clue, if it doesn't begin with R, O, H, or possibly an A with a SR after it, don't buy it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Yep, buy an EEL.
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fuk mee i luv annagrams
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18 September 2010, 22:38
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Yep, buy an Eel.
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No, yew irriot,
Rohasreel - fower yer sphwinkler
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18 September 2010, 22:39
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiLlfish
fuk mee i luv annagrams
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ah crap, he spoiled it
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18 September 2010, 22:43
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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I have to say .... a guy comes on here looking for advice and you loons cant get a word out straight sorry op they'll be ok in a minute
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18 September 2010, 22:48
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Redbay supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: onn de moov
Boat name: bote
Make: kevvin
Length: 4m +
Engine: jett dryve
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 455
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
a guy comes on here looking for advice
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hee woz orlrite til hee sed heed bort a bommbard
thenn hee woz fare gaim
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18 September 2010, 22:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiLlfish
hee woz orlrite til hee sed heed bort a bommbard
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Not bought it yet.
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18 September 2010, 22:54
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
I have to say .... a guy comes on here looking for advice and you loons cant get a word out straight sorry op they'll be ok in a minute
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Ai'm sorry, it was the game wiv the letters wot suckered me in.
I'm ok now...
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19 September 2010, 08:52
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Gas station
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 60 HP
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 40
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not a great response to bombard then! , out of interest what are the reasons? I am struggling to make sense of the hundreds of 5m ribs. The package i have been offered is £11K new with a 60HP mariner. Can anyone suggest a better package for £11K budget?
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19 September 2010, 09:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymuff
Boat name: Stingray
Make: Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115hp mercury
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 134
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i have a 6.2 Bombard, and its a cracker of a rib.
i have a 115HP mercury on the back.
very nice, stable and takes loads of weight without flinching
like all things (like cars etc) some love them, some dont
i for one am very happy
they use a lot of Zodiac stuff on them, so replacement valves etc are not expensive either
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19 September 2010, 11:09
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,646
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Originally Posted by snowsports1
not a great response to bombard then! , out of interest what are the reasons? I am struggling to make sense of the hundreds of 5m ribs. The package i have been offered is £11K new with a 60HP mariner. Can anyone suggest a better package for £11K budget?
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Same predicament I was in. RIB manufacturers make their profit by selling you the complete package. You could source a 60 or 70hp engine yourself and complete the fit-out yourself.
Nothing wrong with Bombard. They're owned by Zodiac, who incidentally also own Avon. Not sure if they use Hypalon or PVC materials. I know Zodiac use Hypalon for some of their leisure range, but normally use PVC (Strongan Duotex). The boat finish is normally excellent, comes with an extensive sales support structure, and has more branded accessories than you can shake a stick at. As far as I can see the Bombard Explorer DB or SB finish is basically a Zodiac Pro 500. Takes a long-shaft engine up to 70hp.
I used to have a Zodiac Pro, but sold it as it slapped in anything rough, although saying that, it felt safe and I had complete confidence in its build. However a lot will depend on where you're planning to go, weather conditions, number of people on board, etc. Like you, I stayed under the 5m mark as it has to be garaged. I will post pictures of the Ribcraft when I get a minute.
RIBS on my shortlist included:
Humber Ocean Pro 5m (2.1m beam)
Ribcraft 4.8m commercial
Ribquest 4.8m commercial
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19 September 2010, 11:28
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#40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Quote:
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Nothing wrong with Bombard.
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Possibly, but I'd rather invest my £11k in something that was really good rather than "nothing wrong".
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