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23 January 2008, 23:31
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Country: Ireland
Town: west
Length: 6m +
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first rib advice needed
hi
i plan to purchase a rib for use mainly in bad weather on a large lake. My budget is about 15k. I was thinking of a 6.5m zodiac or humber with a 90-115hp 4 stroke. The lake can get fairly bad with short chop. Would a 6.5 deal with this kind weather?
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23 January 2008, 23:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
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Yes. I doubt a good 6.5m would have any trouble.
Which lake?
<edit> 90hp would be underpowered on a 6.5m though. Personally I'd want at least 150hp.
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24 January 2008, 02:43
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Oban (mostly)
Make: Ribcraft, Humber,BWM
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboards
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ccr12
for use mainly in bad weather
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?? Now I'm curious. Why mainly in bad weather?
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24 January 2008, 03:24
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Large lake - West Wales - get's rough - need a 6.5m RIB - are you sure it's a lake and not the Irish Sea???
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25 January 2008, 01:51
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Country: Ireland
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i live in ireland not wales apologies. I like to get out camping all year round on the islands of the corrib which is a large lake on the west of ireland. It can get fairly rough with little notice which makes it hard to plan trips especially this time of year . I would like to get a rib which would be able to handle pretty much anything the lake would throw at it. After reading through the posts on here a 6m+ rib seems to be the best option. Is there any particular make of rib that is better suited to the short breaking chop of a lake? It doesnt have to look pretty im more interested in capabilities rather then sporty looks. What kinda of fuel consumption would you get from a 150hp 4 stroke? i currently have a sports fisher with the 1.7 diesel cummins and its very economical although its not the fastest with crew and gear onboard.
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25 January 2008, 12:58
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
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How big is the chop?
It will in theory all depend on the height of thechop and the boat:wavelength ratio - I've had good "stay sat down & comfortable" trips in my old SR4 where the 5.8 Ribcraft 20 Yds to my left was moaning about the lump, then the next time I was bouncing around like a lottery ball (even whilst feathering throttle and steering) whilst he was gliding smoothly over the same waves.
Having said that, a 6M boat should be OK in most conditions!
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25 January 2008, 14:04
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Country: Ireland
Town: Co Clare
Length: 4m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ccr12
i live in ireland not wales apologies. I like to get out camping all year round on the islands of the corrib which is a large lake on the west of ireland. It can get fairly rough with little notice which makes it hard to plan trips especially this time of year . I would like to get a rib which would be able to handle pretty much anything the lake would throw at it. After reading through the posts on here a 6m+ rib seems to be the best option. Is there any particular make of rib that is better suited to the short breaking chop of a lake? It doesnt have to look pretty im more interested in capabilities rather then sporty looks. What kinda of fuel consumption would you get from a 150hp 4 stroke? i currently have a sports fisher with the 1.7 diesel cummins and its very economical although its not the fastest with crew and gear onboard.
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Hi
I have been out on Lough Derg in really bad chop in a 4m and found it really hard work . The guy beside me was in a 5.4m and had no trouble at all so I imagine a 6m + Rib would have no trouble at all coping .
Tim
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25 January 2008, 14:39
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Country: UK - England
Town: Hythe
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Get yourself an Avon SR 5.4m
Great fun and takes the rough stuff for breakfast, this is a completely unbiast opinion.
.......
BY AN AVON <COUGH>
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25 January 2008, 14:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
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Shock horror- I actually wouldn't recommend an sr5.4 for regularly using camping. They don't have enough room aboard to stow camping gear and be able to guarantee to keep it dry. I'd be looking for something with a big console for storage.
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25 January 2008, 15:03
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....... yyyeeessss.....
you may be a tad, damp, and you'd only be able to take a one man tent and a frying pan with you. But you'd have a cracking grin on your face.
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25 January 2008, 15:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
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Ah But can he handle a searider!!! on a serious note there are some great boats out there,for that sort of money that can handle the rough, Ribcraft Solent,Osprey,Avon adventurer and Zodiak avoid!! oops, here we go!
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25 January 2008, 15:52
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Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
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25 January 2008, 15:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TimMcC
Hi
I have been out on Lough Derg in really bad chop in a 4m and found it really hard work . The guy beside me was in a 5.4m and had no trouble at all so I imagine a 6m + Rib would have no trouble at all coping .
Tim
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Spent many a happy week on and around Derg! ......mines a pint....
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25 January 2008, 17:27
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Country: Ireland
Town: west
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thanks
i would need a bit of room alright mainly beer tent and rucksack id plan to put them in a hold all and strap them down to something. how old is too old for a big 4 stroke presuming that it has a service history? would a couple of hundred hrs be a lot?
thanks again
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26 January 2008, 07:16
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Yoda & Obi Wan
Make: XS700
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 HP
Join Date: May 2004
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CCR
A modern 150HP 4 stroke at full chat would burn about 30-35 litres per hr, You can make this considerably more economical by dropping of the revs a bit.
Depending which boat you have a 150 may be bigger than required. We have a 6.3m Leeway with a 90HP 2 stroke on the back, she does high forties with one man on board and low fourties with 4 blokes on board. I know several boats over 6m running with 115, 135 etc
When buying second hand I would be most intrested in condition, a couple of hundred hrs should not be a big issue if she is well looked after. Can you give us a better idea of age, type and previou use (ie garaged, outdoors, commercial, leisure etc)?
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