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21 January 2015, 21:13
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Flares on Ribs?
What do you carry?
I have to be honest and say the prospect of explosive flares on a rib doesn't appeal to me!
Anyone got experience of the LED / Laser flares that are on the market?
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21 January 2015, 22:26
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
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Never had a problem with conventional flares, or had to use one. Normally keep them in their protective case (padded with polystyrene chips) up front in the forward console hatch next to battery. I keep it well padded as there is a tendancy for things to rattle, and replace on due date.
Only attempted to activate out of date flares at bonfire night (in back garden), so I at least know what's involved. All the flares failed to ignite. Soaked them in a bucket of water before destroying.
No experience of laser or LED flares, but I usually carry a strobe torch.
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21 January 2015, 22:29
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
What do you carry?
I have to be honest and say the prospect of explosive flares on a rib doesn't appeal to me!
Anyone got experience of the LED / Laser flares that are on the market?
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Prospect of being at sea without them doesn't appeal to me, when was the last time you heard of a RIB damaged or person injured by a spontaneous flare deployment?
http://www.gaelforcemarine.co.uk/en/...=UnitedKingdom Idealfor inland/shore use further you go the bigger the arsenalyou need to carry. Flares are part of a safety kit along with Radio, first aid kit, secondary propulsion etc. Why wait to be rescued if you can row to shore.....
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21 January 2015, 22:40
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Member
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Subject has been much discussed, try putting " flares" into the search function.
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21 January 2015, 22:43
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Member
Country: UK - N Ireland
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Originally Posted by Zippy
Anyone got experience of the LED / Laser flares that are on the market?
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SPR is the man to talk about these
Greatland Rescue Laser Flares - RYA Training Courses - Laser Flares
Also the following table, which is endorsed by the RYA, RNLI and MCA is very helpful when looking at different means of distress alerting
http://www.rya.org.uk/SiteCollection...o-Sheet-A4.pdf
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22 January 2015, 08:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Subject has been much discussed, try putting " flares" into the search function.
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Well thats told me. who am i to ask a question about safety on a discussion forum that might prompt some interesting thought on new technology...
i will get back in my box and start talking about Seariders and Ospreys....
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22 January 2015, 08:40
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
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Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
Well thats told me. who am i to ask a question about safety on a discussion forum that might prompt some interesting thought on new technology...
i will get back in my box and start talking about Seariders and Ospreys....
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Time of the month lol😉
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22 January 2015, 09:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
Well thats told me. who am i to ask a question about safety on a discussion forum that might prompt some interesting thought on new technology...
i will get back in my box and start talking about Seariders and Ospreys....
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Actually, I was trying to be helpful, I sent the message from my phone whilst sat in a traffic jam, so didn't have time for niceties. No offence intended, lighten up.😘 in future I'll make sure I wrap it up in a nice pink bow xxxx
.....sh1t happens.......
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22 January 2015, 09:47
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purely personnel done a lot of thinking about this over the years and do carry flares but!
carry on board DSC radio,handheld radio,mobile phone , 2 strobes,radar reflector,search light,torch,PLB & back up engine why would i want to use a firework next to my 6m x 2.4m rib carrying 100ltrs of petrol.
lazer flare for me next time i replace
plus registered on CG66
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22 January 2015, 09:59
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: west mids /tywyn
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Make: RIBCRAFT/ Suzuki 250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
Well thats told me:
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Yea zip it zippy he's a Yorkshire man he can't help being the way he is. Can yea Dave
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22 January 2015, 10:37
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Town: Rutland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
What do you carry?
I have to be honest and say the prospect of explosive flares on a rib doesn't appeal to me!
Anyone got experience of the LED / Laser flares that are on the market?
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I've got both, and luckily never used either in anger, the laser looks good but no real idea how good.
As for the flares, if it hit the fan I think a launch from the bow would be safe and the chances are there's plenty of water to throw it in if it goes wrong
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22 January 2015, 13:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tony t
Yea zip it zippy he's a Yorkshire man he can't help being the way he is. Can yea Dave
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Aye, no point using ten words when one will do, I'm not Poly
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22 January 2015, 15:00
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Member
Town: Belper
Boat name: Ey up mi duck
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Subject has been much discussed, try putting " flares" into the search function.
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Found a pair of old brown flares in the attic if anyone wants them . They never ignited anything for me
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22 January 2015, 15:02
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Large flares can be dangerous on an open boat at speed for the passenger sat behind! Therefore, I would recommend drainpipes or even bellbottoms
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23 January 2015, 09:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
What do you carry?
I have to be honest and say the prospect of explosive flares on a rib doesn't appeal to me!
Anyone got experience of the LED / Laser flares that are on the market?
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I have an inshore pack that I carry in the case it was supplied in for the reasons others have stated. Not sure when it expires, but you can't buy them off the shelf here and with the issues/cost with hazardous ocean freight I think I'll be getting a laser flare next time round and forget the explosives. If nobody is looking (which is most likely anyway) then I've got a PLB, which is the primary device anyway.
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23 January 2015, 16:52
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Smokes can't be replicated by lasers, which are less useful in daylight a couple of hand smokes and a couple of signal flares is not an explosion risk.
LAsers are a good idea but i wouldn't want to rely on just that.....
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23 January 2015, 17:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newport IoW
Boat name: Amean/Pronto/Rumbo
Make: Solent Rib Princess
Length: 7m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zippy
What do you carry?
I have to be honest and say the prospect of explosive flares on a rib doesn't appeal to me!
Anyone got experience of the LED / Laser flares that are on the market
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These come up good in test reports
Ocean Safety Ltd - Ocean Safety introduces new Mk3 LED Odeo Flare
I carry the offshore pack on all our boats.
Cheers
Tim
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23 January 2015, 17:29
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Although this U Tube video was made by Kayakers in conjunction with the Coastguard..Im sure some of you will find it interesting and informative. I know I did. Apologies if its been posted before..its a couple of years old now.
The coastguard agreed to assist the making of the full length video.. on the condition a shortened version was made free to anyone who wished to see it
This is the free shortened version..and if you have not seen it before..its worth watching
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23 January 2015, 19:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
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Thanks gurnard not seen that myself before but I am quite happy with what I do in line with the coast guard recommendations covers me ,must admit I am not a lover of pyrotechnics but that's just me
Jeff
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23 January 2015, 20:42
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Make: HIGHFIELD OM540DL
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Hello, I have found only one offer on amazon.co.uk for 100 GBP.
Is it really so expensive ? Or it is just something new and within few month price shall be lower ?
Nice item, thanks for suggestion
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