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18 January 2024, 01:27
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Flying to China to visit RIB factory - what should I video?
Hello all,
I will be visiting a RIB factory in Weihai, China in 2-3 weeks. Coincidentally this is the same area where Highfield RIBs are manufactured - Shandong province.
What specifically are you interested in seeing about their boat building process? I’ll be touring the factory and have an opportunity to see any aspect of the build or process.
I know there is some debate about buying name-brand RIBs like Zodiacs or Highfields versus generic Chinese RIBs - so I decided to see it all for myself. I’m not sure what I’ll discover, but the more feedback I get from users like you in this forum, the higher the quality of information I can put together for a video.
What would you want to see?
What questions should I ask?
Would love some feedback from experienced boaters who know what to look for.
Cheers from Phuket, Thailand
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18 January 2024, 02:30
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18 January 2024, 07:20
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I understand that over the road is a second factory and these 2 are the main source of Rubber boats from China. Interested if you can confirm this from your visit. Yesterday I took delivery of a 5.35 m rib that most likely came from this factory
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18 January 2024, 08:14
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Originally Posted by Easedalenovice
I understand that over the road is a second factory and these 2 are the main source of Rubber boats from China. Interested if you can confirm this from your visit. Yesterday I took delivery of a 5.35 m rib that most likely came from this factory
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Happy to take a look for sure. Apparently that whole region is the dedicated boat factory hub. You’re talking across the road from Highfield right?
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18 January 2024, 09:12
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Originally Posted by TikiTorture
Happy to take a look for sure. Apparently that whole region is the dedicated boat factory hub. You’re talking across the road from Highfield right?
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Yes Apparently across the Road.
Here is a thread to the Rib I got delivered Yesterday
https://www.rib.net/forum/f8/bought-...tml#post870781
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18 January 2024, 09:38
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Originally Posted by Easedalenovice
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Nice! Funny seeing your English Breakfast - every restaurant here in Phuket sells an English Breakfast with the beans!
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18 January 2024, 16:48
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Originally Posted by TikiTorture
Nice! Funny seeing your English Breakfast - every restaurant here in Phuket sells an English Breakfast with the beans!
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Yes we like our English Brekkies
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18 January 2024, 19:15
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Not sure, if they’ll tell you, but all technical details would be interesting. Like:
Used resin
Used tube material
Thickness of tube material
Thickness of gelcoat
Standards used for calculating hull and materials
Type and material for bonding hull and deck
Used decking
Happy to hear, how it was… Iam in contact with a Chinese factory and thinking about importing some ribs, but for me too unsure,what I will get…
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18 January 2024, 23:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scou
Not sure, if they’ll tell you, but all technical details would be interesting. Like:
Used resin
Used tube material
Thickness of tube material
Thickness of gelcoat
Standards used for calculating hull and materials
Type and material for bonding hull and deck
Used decking
Happy to hear, how it was… Iam in contact with a Chinese factory and thinking about importing some ribs, but for me too unsure,what I will get…
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This is awesome feedback, exactly the stuff I’m looking for.
The RIB I’m having them make is a 6m Aluminum hull with hypalon tubes so maybe some of that won’t apply but some will. Maybe there’s some equivalent questions I can ask for Aluminum. Nevertheless, this factory makes fiberglass hulls as well - so I can ask.
Off topic - what made you decide on a fiberglass hull?
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19 January 2024, 00:33
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Some common issues across all builders - where various ducts and channels run before the deck goes on. A picture of the layout can help with routing cables and fuel lines etc.
Since you are aluminium... How to they QA the welds
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19 January 2024, 00:40
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Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
Some common issues across all builders - where various ducts and channels run before the deck goes on. A picture of the layout can help with routing cables and fuel lines etc.
Since you are aluminium... How to they QA the welds
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Ooo these are great. Ducts and Channels plus the QA for the welds. Question for you on the Aluminum, is there a certain grade I should be looking for? Thickness?
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20 January 2024, 02:09
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When I last visited a boat show there was a ali boat on display and the welds were shocking. And, this was on show.
I shudder to think of what the welds look like where they were hidden.
So checking out the welds in the hull, I think is important.
Incidently do you have permission to take photos or videos?
Not all manufacturers like that.
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20 January 2024, 02:21
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Originally Posted by Salty Pete
When I last visited a boat show there was a ali boat on display and the welds were shocking. And, this was on show.
I shudder to think of what the welds look like where they were hidden.
So checking out the welds in the hull, I think is important.
Incidently do you have permission to take photos or videos?
Not all manufacturers like that.
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Yeah that is surprising at a boat show to have such low quality welds. I will look for that for sure.
The factory staff has said it isn’t a problem, but let’s see what the story is once I get there. Anything else you’d be interested in seeing?
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20 January 2024, 14:22
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I guess the other question would be about painting. I don't know enough about painting but that's your protection against metal being damaged.
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20 January 2024, 17:23
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Ali Welds never look good that is the nature of those welds
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21 January 2024, 06:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Easedalenovice
Ali Welds never look good that is the nature of those welds
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Ha ha, that's a good line to use if you are looking for a job as an ali welder. Nah my welds don't look crap, they're supposed to look like that.
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21 January 2024, 08:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Easedalenovice
Ali Welds never look good that is the nature of those welds
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what a load of bollocks
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21 January 2024, 08:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beerbelly
what a load of bollocks
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Your Picture is what a lot of people think is not looking good. Do you think that looks good. Thanks for proving my point
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22 January 2024, 10:13
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Quote:
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what a load of bollocks
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As per usual I queried the quality of the ali welding with Highfield on their stand at the boatshow a couple of years back. I was told that they could "premium" weld the hulls for an additional cost
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22 January 2024, 12:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
As per usual I queried the quality of the ali welding with Highfield on their stand at the boatshow a couple of years back. I was told that they could "premium" weld the hulls for an additional cost
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my comment was in reply to another member saying all ally welding looks bad .i disagree a skilled welder can produce beautiful welds in aluminium
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