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05 November 2019, 10:54
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Gaffer, Ocean Devil
Make: Avon Deluxe,Scorpion
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90, 6LP
Join Date: Nov 2019
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Foot throttle with shock mitigation Seat
I need advice and feel sure this forum will have all the expertise! I am upgrading my Avon Deluxe for longer adventures. I would much prefer a foot throttle and with the Deluxe seating position this should work well, I will be putting in the now out of date seats from my rally car and would also like shockwave s5 shock mitigation system.
Will this work? As the seat goes up and down will it be tricky to maintain the correct throttle or will I have to fabricate a leg out from the top of the shock platform and have the foot throttle attached to that so that it goes up and down with the seat? I’d rather not have to do this unless necessary! Any thoughts would be much appreciated...
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05 November 2019, 12:40
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Denny
Boat name: Highland Bluewater
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,647
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Do you really want a foot throttle for longer trips....?
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05 November 2019, 13:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Some of the UK based offshore race boats use the Shockwave S2 suspension unit fitted with Cobra (or similar) seats. This unit works well with an independent foot throttle such as N-Control. https://www.cpperformance.com/c-834-foot-throttles.aspx
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06 November 2019, 13:00
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Gaffer, Ocean Devil
Make: Avon Deluxe,Scorpion
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90, 6LP
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 26
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Thanks for your replies, if it works with the S2 it should work with S5! The throttle I’ve gone for is Sjoberg which allows you to keep hand throttle and choose which to use... best of both hopefully 😀 Will report how it works out
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06 November 2019, 16:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
Join Date: Sep 2015
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By co-incidence this dropped into my Inbox today.
SeaStar Solutions
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06 November 2019, 16:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Tango
Do you really want a foot throttle for longer trips....?
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Personally couldn’t think of anything worse.
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06 November 2019, 17:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
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My initial thoughts were along the lines of PD and LT but as the OP suggests you can choose to either use a hand throttle or the foot throttle, then you do overcome the apparent disadvantages.
I've never used a foot throttle (on a boat) but if I was doing so, I can just imagine myself trying to hit the brake when my arriving alongside starts to go wrong.
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06 November 2019, 18:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Originally Posted by GuyC
My initial thoughts were along the lines of PD and LT but as the OP suggests you can choose to either use a hand throttle or the foot throttle, then you do overcome the apparent disadvantages.
I've never used a foot throttle (on a boat) but if I was doing so, I can just imagine myself trying to hit the brake when my arriving alongside starts to go wrong.
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I’m assuming that a foot throttle would be spring loaded, so as soon as your foot comes off (or slips) the power also comes of just as suddenly, or am I missing summat?[emoji848]
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06 November 2019, 19:46
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: Humber Ocean Pro
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 200HP
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 997
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I’m assuming that a foot throttle would be spring loaded, so as soon as your foot comes off (or slips) the power also comes of just as suddenly, or am I missing summat?[emoji848]
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That’s how mine have all worked [emoji106]
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06 November 2019, 19:59
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Country: UK - England
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 309
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With a Ring or Phantom they can’t be driven properly without a foot throttle. Ribs are not really in the same league... stick to the control box.
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06 November 2019, 20:58
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Gaffer, Ocean Devil
Make: Avon Deluxe,Scorpion
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90, 6LP
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 26
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It may we’ll be the case that my little Avon doesn’t need a foot throttle but I certainly preferred it in other small light boats Ive driven. The hand throttle is necessarily poorly located in the Avon Deluxe so I hoped a foot throttle would help when trying to keep with bigger faster boats in a chop! I will try and report back...
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11 November 2019, 16:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: TOP CAT 2
Make: Scorpion 8.1
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp HO
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I have a foot throttle with bucket suspension seats. It works just fine. My heel of foot never seems to move so I always have a reference.
Driving an average boat the foot throttle probably isn’t essential and a little bit more thought has to be given to shifting. If you’re putting a boat on trailer or handling in marina you have to shift then throttle. It’s a two step process. Rivers are not as relaxing neither.
If your in a high performance boat, a foot throttle is a very useful tool. Running +60mph it gives you impeccable control to stop the boat barking when out the water. Equally if you wanna drive hard it is so much quicker response than the average hand throttle.
My throttle has the option of a hand and foot throttle but I found it too stiff. Consideration for cable runs and the fact most foot throttles need a standard 33c cable may mean you need an adaptor at engine end
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11 November 2019, 16:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: TOP CAT 2
Make: Scorpion 8.1
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp HO
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With pic
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12 November 2019, 22:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
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Length: under 3m
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Personally couldn’t think of anything worse.
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Me neither...
Begs the question What advantages over the normal (tried and tested) small RIB set up you think you'd get?
On BIG Power/Speed competitive Offshore boats that have MUCH more RECLINED and laid back seating arrangement they obviously have a place (or they wouldn't use them)...on a very SMALL flighty and Bouncy RIB seated in a much more upright position ...where most of your stability comes through bracing your legs (and FEET!) on a pitching rolling-sometimes slamming deck. Nah
I just can't see it working...not for long anyway!
I think you may well find out it would be dangerous in a heavy confused Sea.
A modification/innovation should make life easier...not SHORTER!
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12 November 2019, 23:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gtflash
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That would be "cosy" on his SR!
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13 November 2019, 16:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: TOP CAT 2
Make: Scorpion 8.1
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp HO
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I suppose driving a sr4 in a laid back seat on the edge at 30-40mph in even mild chop could be as exciting and demanding as my 8m rib at 70mph!
The foot throttle offers faster response for fettling throttle with out a doubt. Downside is close quarters and rivers.
A hot foot throttle is so inexpensive it wouldn’t be a massive loss of investment if it doesn’t work.
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12 March 2020, 10:45
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Country: New Zealand
Town: Christchurch
Boat name: zetec
Make: Orca
Length: 7m +
Engine: petrol
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 18
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I have only seen this combination of suspension seat and foot throttle a few times and not tested myself, but note that the installations I have seen DO NOT have the type of suspension which has a FORWARD throw during impact. I tnink that is because throwing more weight on the throttle during each impact is unwise. So S5 may not be the right choice in this instance unless .. or perhaps you can face it the other way around?
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12 March 2020, 11:04
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Ennis
Boat name: pac 22
Make: Halmatic
Length: 6m +
Engine: inboard
Join Date: Aug 2018
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LONG DISTANCE + FOOT THROTTLE come on it speaks for itself.
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