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18 May 2016, 15:04
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iv'e just bought a gath gedi made in Australia [plastic] more for warmth & the visor than head impact protection it states helmet should be replaced if there are any signs of damage proving you haven't damaged it very difficult.
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18 May 2016, 15:57
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iv'e just bought a gath gedi made in Australia [plastic] more for warmth & the visor than head impact protection it states helmet should be replaced if there are any signs of damage proving you haven't damaged it very difficult.
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What model Jeff and any pics?
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18 May 2016, 16:13
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Hi Billy
It's the rescue I got it from safequip £60 their selling them off cheap but no visors left so ordered from robin hood water sports £35 nice hat light weight with a peak full or half visors clear or tinted the ear pieces shut off if required (when the missus moans) they use them for kite surfing too.
When the visor comes I'll post a pic loads on eBay you can zoom in on though.
Cheers
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18 May 2016, 17:51
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Hi Billy
It's the rescue I got it from safequip £60 their selling them off cheap but no visors left so ordered from robin hood water sports £35 nice hat light weight with a peak full or half visors clear or tinted the ear pieces shut off if required (when the missus moans) they use them for kite surfing too.
When the visor comes I'll post a pic loads on eBay you can zoom in on though.
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They look good bit like a ski helmet might go down that route next time and hope they last more than a handful of outings 💪
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18 May 2016, 18:19
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On ERR two guys had £30 motor bike helmets and swore by them I thought about it but wasn't sure about getting them wet internally especially in a SIB worth looking into for you in a RIB behind a console though, loads on eBay starting at £15 if they only last a season might be an option
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18 May 2016, 18:26
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Mick
On ERR two guys had £30 motor bike helmets and swore by them I thought about it but wasn't sure about getting them wet internally especially in a SIB worth looking into for you in a RIB behind a console though, loads on eBay starting at £15 if they only last a season might be an option
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Thing to be aware of is that a m/bike helmet can scoop the water during a high speed MOB and potentially cause serious neck injury. What Gecko (and I assume Gath) claim is that their chin strap is designed to fail in that circumstance so that the force on your neck is much reduced.
Now of course people don't fall overboard regularly. When they do fall it is often not at speed, and presumably even then only a fraction of those would be at the angle most likely to maximise scooping...
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18 May 2016, 18:29
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Mick
On ERR two guys had £30 motor bike helmets and swore by them I thought about it but wasn't sure about getting them wet internally especially in a SIB worth looking into for you in a RIB behind a console though, loads on eBay starting at £15 if they only last a season might be an option
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Yeh Neil uses bike helmets they've been OK for him I've got to geckos that are in full order the other 2 with problems are just spares at the mo seem as the kids don't come much now.
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18 May 2016, 18:48
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Looking at this gath although you have slots in it you have a, liner (foam) that seals it so as poly says scooping water will still happen the slots are for draining quickly it's tight fitting so max 1/2 ltrs of water in there and the strap is a plastic clip together buckle, scooping will minimal. The guys at ERR were on jockey seats so I would say the possibility of MOB feet first very remote and worth the risk IMO. But if on a budget and all you want like me is keep the head warm and a full face visor to stop the rain stinging, you could buy a cheap canoeing helmet buy a visor and bolt on that's all the gath is really.
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18 May 2016, 19:00
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Yeh Neil uses bike helmets they've been OK for him I've got to geckos that are in full order the other 2 with problems are just spares at the mo seem as the kids don't come much now.
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18 May 2016, 19:07
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Yeh you & Tony can go and sort him out 💪💪
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18 May 2016, 19:38
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I get mbike helmets may scoop water but they are designed to protect your head hitting the ground. Water at speed is hard trust me I know. Hitting the ground off a motorbike could snap your neck
There is risk in everything.
Bottom line for me. Mbike helmets are warm, they are designed to manage high speed air, they are designed to protect your head, they come with flip visitors and so can be open face. They are cheap. One season £15 bin it get another.
They can get wet through and will dry, it's basically foam with some padding I wouldn't want it to land in the sea and then put it on, but a wave in the mush is totally fine try wearing one on a bike for 5 hours in torrential rain they keep your head dry
All imho and geckos have their place as do other products 😄👍 but the cost and comfort is hard to beat
Oh and they come in many colours lol
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18 May 2016, 19:49
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Originally Posted by neil.mccrirrick
I get mbike helmets may scoop water but they are designed to protect your head hitting the ground. Water at speed is hard trust me I know. Hitting the ground off a motorbike could snap your neck
There is risk in everything.
Bottom line for me. Mbike helmets are warm, they are designed to manage high speed air, they are designed to protect your head, they come with flip visitors and so can be open face. They are cheap. One season £15 bin it get another.
They can get wet through and will dry, it's basically foam with some padding I wouldn't want it to land in the sea and then put it on, but a wave in the mush is totally fine try wearing one on a bike for 5 hours in torrential rain they keep your head dry
All imho and geckos have their place as do other products 😄👍 but the cost and comfort is hard to beat
Oh and they come in many colours lol
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I agree not being a biker wasn't sure so went gath but re the scooping I started a thread some weeks ago sibling in brixham took some pics of lads not sure what it's called but shore hopping they were jumping a Good 15m in similar helmets to the gath and at that speed the water won't travel through the slots quick enough to prevent pull but they kept doing it so for me no probs being in a boat with the remote possibility of hitting the water at the wrong angle acceptable to me.
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18 May 2016, 20:22
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Originally Posted by neil.mccrirrick
I get mbike helmets may scoop water but they are designed to protect your head hitting the ground. Water at speed is hard trust me I know. Hitting the ground off a motorbike could snap your neck
There is risk in everything.
Bottom line for me. Mbike helmets are warm, they are designed to manage high speed air, they are designed to protect your head, they come with flip visitors and so can be open face. They are cheap. One season £15 bin it get another.
They can get wet through and will dry, it's basically foam with some padding I wouldn't want it to land in the sea and then put it on, but a wave in the mush is totally fine try wearing one on a bike for 5 hours in torrential rain they keep your head dry
All imho and geckos have their place as do other products but the cost and comfort is hard to beat
Oh and they come in many colours lol
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Same can be said for the motorcycle Jackets and pants "Got mine from Aldi"..... if they can keep you dry in the rain doing 70 mph on the motorway they are good enough for a boat imo
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19 May 2016, 07:53
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Originally Posted by neil.mccrirrick
I get mbike helmets may scoop water but they are designed to protect your head hitting the ground. Water at speed is hard trust me I know. Hitting the ground off a motorbike could snap your neck
There is risk in everything.
Bottom line for me. Mbike helmets are warm, they are designed to manage high speed air, they are designed to protect your head, they come with flip visitors and so can be open face. They are cheap. One season £15 bin it get another.
They can get wet through and will dry, it's basically foam with some padding I wouldn't want it to land in the sea and then put it on, but a wave in the mush is totally fine try wearing one on a bike for 5 hours in torrential rain they keep your head dry
All imho and geckos have their place as do other products 😄👍 but the cost and comfort is hard to beat
Oh and they come in many colours lol
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Hard to argue with any of that Neil
Do they come Lilac and Cerise??...
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19 May 2016, 08:33
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The real issue is not so much the Product...I've used them for years...but the lamentable customer service and Back up that Mick experienced...for something that in reality should have been a quick and easy fix.
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13 June 2016, 09:04
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GATH GEDI
sorry for the wait on this billy but the visor only came friday for me to find they have sent a half face visor but still the visor is very well made and a few pics.
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13 June 2016, 10:28
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Thanks Jeff for the update. Looks good. Let me know how it goes after a trial cruise. But so far looks good alternative to the 'G'.
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13 June 2016, 11:09
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Thanks Jeff for the update. Looks good. Let me know how it goes after a trial cruise. But so far looks good alternative to the 'G'.
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Yeh and what's the wind noise like on your ears it's bad on my Gecko
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13 June 2016, 11:12
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Thanks Jeff for the update. Looks good. Let me know how it goes after a trial cruise. But so far looks good alternative to the 'G'.
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will do Billy
cost up date its the gath gedi rescue i bought
safequipe selling off @ £59.94 RRP £ 89.95 & comes with a peek
visor full face £35, £25 half face clear or tint but not available with them, robin-hood water sports sell them.
on eBay at £137 with visor.
gecko price i found was around £240 with visor but the visor is press stud attached the gath is two screws.
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