Got a RIB at last!!

[JSP]

That's something I know nothing about.
The idea sounds great, but I can also see the disadvantages, One to mull over.

Lots of knowledge passed on in this thread so far, all being taken in and a big sigh of relief knowing I've got you lot to tap into. I owe you all a pint*









*I reserve the right to retract that statement if and when you take the pish coz I know naff all.

[spartacus]

You'll struggle to source a decent second-hand 2-stroke Yamaha 50hp, although anything is possible. Actually there was one for sale recently on Ebay (Skye), long-shaft and had been used in fresh-water, a snip at £2k!

If you do spot one - you might need to buy the bucket it's attached to. That's the reality of the second-hand market just now. Good luck.

[Nasher]

Originally Posted by JSP

I owe you all a pint*

Long way South for the X-mas dinner or a Churchillian night!

Nasher.

[JSP]

I'll send you a tin of special brew mate

[JSP]

Had a look at A1 National and they don't seem to carry much stock of used motors. I know Pete7 said not to go to Bill Higham but he does have a lot of stock and the prices don't seem that bad do they? Like the sounds of a bit of warranty too.

Two motors that I've seen are a Honda 45 4 stroke and a Mercury 50hp

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by JSP

Had a look at A1 National and they don't seem to carry much stock of used motors. I know Pete7 said not to go to Bill Higham but he does have a lot of stock and the prices don't seem that bad do they? Like the sounds of a bit of warranty too.

Two motors that I've seen are a Honda 45 4 stroke and a Mercury 50hp

That mercury is at least 25 years old-and the Honda is no spring chicken either.

He's asking at least double their worth for both of them too.

[Pete7]

With a short hull weight is critical or you will upset the balance of the boat, hence our recommendations for 2 strokes. That Merc 50 hp is likely to be 1970s. The reason I said don't go to Bill is that he is very expensive and really only as a last resort.

The 3 cyl Yams and Mariner/Mercs will command a top price however this would do nicely. Okay its hand start but pull starting a 40 hp isn't difficult and means you can then get away with using a small motorcycle battery (saving space and weight) for electrics like a radio etc. For the price a late 90s engine will be much more reliable than a 30 year old Merc. Bembridge are members of Ribnet and built some very nice Shearwater cabin ribs. Having bought covers from them and visited several times I would be happy to recommend them.

Is 40 hp enough for a 4m rib? yes, I think that Merc 50 was rated at the powerhead also any wear will have reduced the power output, whilst the Mariner 40 will be at the prop,

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/BEM449

Pete

[JSP]

Thanks lads.
The only reason I was thinking of a 4 stroke was for running costs. Paying out for petrol and the right 2 stroke oil just seems a bit much when the price between 4 strokes and 2 strokes doesn't seem that great.
But like you say, it's all down to the weight.

That 40 hp looks a good motor, only thing is is it's location. Will have to contact them and see how much P&P would be if they do it.

[JSP]

IF you see a good 2 stroke with power trim/tilt on your travels will you either PM me or contact me through www.johnsingleton-photography.co.uk ?

Thanks for your help!

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by JSP

Thanks lads.
The only reason I was thinking of a 4 stroke was for running costs. Paying out for petrol and the right 2 stroke oil just seems a bit much when the price between 4 strokes and 2 strokes doesn't seem that great.
But like you say, it's all down to the weight.

That 40 hp looks a good motor, only thing is is it's location. Will have to contact them and see how much P&P would be if they do it.

Don't get hung up with the hype about saving fuel with a 4 stroke. At tickover yes the honda might be 30% more efficient as there adverts says, but that is 30% of say a gallon an hour, hardly worth getting excited about. At speed however the difference is likely to be much smaller. In the 130 to 150 range we have seen old 2 strokes use less than hondas 4 strokes.

Long time since I used a Mariner 40 but would have thought 15 - 20 L per hour constantly flat out and obviously less for cruising or water skiing etc.

Pete

[Downhilldai]

Yep - a 40 or 50 2-stroke on a SR4 will give you a very good day out on 2 x 25l cans of fuel (+ 1l of oil) Total cost £60

If you insist on going 4-stroke, to give you some guidance on value, this 1999 Soozookitrood 50 sold a couple of days ago for £1550
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=008

[JSP]

Yeah I got outbid on that motor by 25 quid!
Right looks like two stroke it is. But just before I drop the dead donkey is this no good? Claims to be the lightest 4 stroke plus it's new!

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by JSP

Yeah I got outbid on that motor by 25 quid!
Right looks like two stroke it is. But just before I drop the dead donkey is this no good? Claims to be the lightest 4 stroke plus it's new!

Looks too cheap, possible scam perhaps?

http://www.morganmarine.com/outboard...list25-90.aspx

Peter

[Andy JC]

With the RRP close to £5k (clicky) I would say it's a little tooo good to be true.

Absolute bargain if it's genuine but tread carefully, it could be a scam


*edit; beat me to it Pete!

[Downhilldai]

It's a scam - the text of the ad is full of yankisms - been cut from a yank website and pasted into B&O.
Leave well alone.

What's your budget for the outboard?

[JSP]

Thought I'd email them anyway and see what is said. They are a US company who export/import http://www.watersports24.co.cc/ You have to place your order through the site, delivery is £70 and takes 3-4 days to get to my address. Then get an invoice in 24 hours via email.
Normally you don't pay until you get an invoice? So if that is the case then it doesn't sound too bad. What d'ya think gents?

Downhilldai, budget is what it needs to be really (with in reason). Want the best motor I can get.

[JSP]

And the catch,
Prices shown on the Watersports Ltd. site are shown in Uinted Kingdom Pounds (GBP) and do not include taxes (if applicable) or shipping costs. In the event that a product or service has been listed on Watersports Ltd. at the wrong price due to an error on our part, or on the part of any of our suppliers, we shall have the right to refuse or cancel any order for said product or service.

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by JSP

Thought I'd email them anyway and see what is said. They are a US company who export/import http://www.watersports24.co.cc/ You have to place your order through the site, delivery is £70 and takes 3-4 days to get to my address. Then get an invoice in 24 hours via email.
Normally you don't pay until you get an invoice? So if that is the case then it doesn't sound too bad. What d'ya think gents?

Downhilldai, budget is what it needs to be really (with in reason). Want the best motor I can get.

It's a scam to nick your £70. Don't go near it.

[Downhilldai]

Originally Posted by spartacus

You'll struggle to source a decent second-hand 2-stroke Yamaha 50hp, although anything is possible. Actually there was one for sale recently on Ebay (Skye), long-shaft and had been used in fresh-water, a snip at £2k!

Is this it?:
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F191906
1995 50 Yam 2-stroke. Manual start, but looks clean & tidy, freshwater use, Isle of Skye £1295 - not cheap, but not expensive either.

[Andy JC]

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Is this it?:
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F191906
1995 50 Yam 2-stroke. Manual start, but looks clean & tidy, freshwater use, Isle of Skye £1295 - not cheap, but not expensive either.

That is a nice looking motor, shame it's pull start and manual trim