Graham Jellys "Column" on RIBINT

[PeterM]

Fair point - cant really argue it.............. - maybe some are just prats ! - we must all know one or two !

[prairie tuber]

Yup

[philb]

Moving on from the issue of the content in the article, thats a bloody good looking rib with the Suzi on the back

[Julian]

I thought that as well phil, sure I know the bloke who owns it.

[Dirk Diggler]

Originally Posted by Cookee

my column or articles in Sports Boat and Rib,

I always keep a copy by the bed, superb cure for insomnia!

[CJL]

But isn't it irrelevent what this chap has acomplished in his commercial exploits?? Its the fact he appears to be promoting his own goods!

I buy magazines for an unbiased product reports, reviews and advice.

Seeing an article written by somebody who so clearly has a commercial interest makes me call into question everything that person writes on that subject!!

Rib International are always doing it.

In my books if they want to be a credible magazine they need to make some dramatic improvements on this front.

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

I always keep a copy by the bed, superb cure for insomnia!

Glad I'm not wasting my time then!

[simonnud]

Originally Posted by philb

Moving on from the issue of the content in the article, thats a bloody good looking rib with the Suzi on the back

Not a bad article the story befor with the yellow one !!

[Cookee]

Just reread column number two - I reckon I can spot 6 occasions where he says that he is the only one doing something that nobody else is doing or implying that other boats are inferior - I have written to the editor!

If you would like to do the same: hms@ribmagazine.com

[Brian]

Strewth guys.
Can't a chap write some articles giving his opinion about stuff today?
Would you rather he didn't write at all?

"Everyone" knows what RIB International is like. Just accept it for what it is and aim-off accordingly.
Oh, and before you ask about the poor chap who doesn't know anything and therefore doesn't know how far to aim-off? Well thats true of all of us isn't it?
It certainly is of me.

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Brian

Strewth guys.
Can't a chap write some articles giving his opinion about stuff today?
Would you rather he didn't write at all?

"Everyone" knows what RIB International is like. Just accept it for what it is and aim-off accordingly.
Oh, and before you ask about the poor chap who doesn't know anything and therefore doesn't know how far to aim-off? Well thats true of all of us isn't it?
It certainly is of me.

Magazines can be read by anyone, and not "everyone" does know what they are like! That article implies that they are better than every other make - as a manufacturer I am not exactly overjoyed at that! At one point he says that Plywood fibreglass floors are dangerous ......... do you agree with that? And what is under your moulded floor to give it strength?

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Cookee

At one point he says that Plywood fibreglass floors are dangerous ......... do you agree with that? And what is under your moulded floor to give it strength?

I don't know the answer to either question..........but I will argue for his right to say it.

[PeterM]

On that basis I will exercise my right to say that any RIB is rubbish unless it was built by a man called Brian on a Tuesday afternoon , when it was spring tides , and has blue tubes with pink stripes.......

I'm now waiting for abuse - the above is meant as light hearted joke..........

[iandl]

Originally Posted by Cookee

Just reread column number two - I reckon I can spot 6 occasions where he says that he is the only one doing something that nobody else is doing or implying that other boats are inferior - I have written to the editor!

If you would like to do the same: hms@ribmagazine.com

He must be away .....i emailed last week with no answer ...

I would love to know how scorpion waterproofs there seats ...the way he implies that your bum wont get wet 'ever' ...usually foam will eventually give a wet backside sooner or later.

why dont the mags have product standoffs with a rating, best buy, value for money etc ....this usually keeps manufacturers on the ball .......be good to see someone actually get in say 5 handheld vhf radios and put them all against each other giving it a score then choose one and say why it was better .......radios was just an example ....there are loads of products they could do this with.

havent read a sports boat and rib yet (sorry cookee) will need to get one to see what its like .....not impressed at all with rib international

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[Simon B]

Originally Posted by iandl

He must be away .....i emailed last week with no answer ...
why dont the mags have product standoffs with a rating, best buy, value for money etc ....this usually keeps manufacturers on the ball .......be good to see someone actually get in say 5 handheld vhf radios and put them all against each other giving it a score then choose one and say why it was better .......radios was just an example ....there are loads of products they could do this with.
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Mags like Practical Boat Owner do this all the time, it does however require some time effort and labour on the part of the magazine. I'd noticed the lack of this when I used to read RIB intl, they always seemed to shy away from comparison tests. Shame, that was one of the reasons I stopped subscribing, also if it doesnt make it onto to Ribnet it probably isnt worth knowing anyway!!!

[Julian]

I can vouch for the waterproof seats, never get a wet bum etc.

I think all magazines should do comparisons on products so people get a good understanding of the differences and can see what works and what doesnt work.

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Brian

I don't know the answer to either question..........but I will argue for his right to say it.

Even if it is misinformed?

I believe that editorial in a magazine should be balanced and fair, to say that other makes of Ribs are dangerous because they have floors with wooden stiffening (with either a moulded or plain laminated floor) is neither in my opinion.

If someone said that on here that would be fine as it would be said as an opinion, but many people read magazines and take it as read that the writer knows what they are saying is fact - being as the writer is the MD of a very well respected Rib manufacturing company means that it adds weight to his comments - still think he's right?

[Bittentobuggery]

Originally Posted by iandl

I would love to know how scorpion waterproofs there seats ...the way he implies that your bum wont get wet 'ever' ...usually foam will eventually give a wet backside sooner or later.

Wrapped the foam in mine in clingfilm last year and it still works a treat. Wonder how much Scorp owners are being charged for permadry seats......

[BruceB]

So it you sit on a seat just after the rain you still stay dry? I wonder what hi tec materials they used for that?
Oh sorry, its just using the correct foam and covering with a waterproof material, now why didn't the local guy that built my seats think of that? Oh he did? whoops!

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Cookee

Just reread column number two - I reckon I can spot 6 occasions where he says that he is the only one doing something that nobody else is doing or implying that other boats are inferior - I have written to the editor!

If you would like to do the same: hms@ribmagazine.com

Cookee - Actually he may have done himself some damage with the vaguely knowledgable people who will realise that some of his claims to be the only people doing things are either totally exagerated, just plain misleading, or in fact marketing spin (if all "his ideas" are so great, why is no one copying him?).

But then the editorial quality is so good that:

• two question marks remain in the round britain article where the author had obviously forgotten the names and meant to fill them in,
• the article on the sea safety course implies that TPA's put energy into the body presumably from some magical source (whereas foil blankets just "maintain heat"?) and
• that there is a vacuum under an upturned rib! Ironically this last comment says rib drivers should therefore not wear autogas l/j's for this reason - in the same issue as they encourage us to assess the risks ourselves...

Actually that may have as much to do with the quality of RYA instruction on the course, as the journalist and editor - but that is 3 people in a chain who have chosen to accept/regurgitate physical impossibilities!

Perhaps HMS has been too busy jollying round the country on trips/race that we (as subscribers or advertisers) have been paying for to do his job?