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22 January 2007, 23:14
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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Originally Posted by Polwart
OK - so you are still saying "all ribs are the same" EXCEPT FOR YOURS!
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Yup got it in one - you have quoted EXACTLY what I said - don't work for the News of the World do you???
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23 January 2007, 09:39
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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Weight distribution on a RIB:
The sharp end of the boat is narrower than the blunt end, hence less material hence lighter
The sharp end of the boat is full of air, the blunt end is full of wood
The sharp end of the boat has an anchor in it, the blunt end has a 'kin great big engine....
I doubt whether there is a RIB anywhere that isn't naturally a bit tail heavy unless you put a whole lot of fat people in the bow?
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23 January 2007, 19:16
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
Weight distribution on a RIB:
The sharp end of the boat is narrower than the blunt end, hence less material hence lighter
The sharp end of the boat is full of air, the blunt end is full of wood
The sharp end of the boat has an anchor in it, the blunt end has a 'kin great big engine....
I doubt whether there is a RIB anywhere that isn't naturally a bit tail heavy unless you put a whole lot of fat people in the bow?
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Stephen,
I agree that many ribs will tend to be lighter at the nose than the tail. But I suggest that ALL planing boats share this characteristic to some extent. However I suspect that the following factors will exacerbate the problem (1) large engine (2) hull length. That it why my wee 4m boat with 20HP engine really doesn't feel like the nose will take off.
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23 January 2007, 21:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: TOP CAT 2
Make: Scorpion 8.1
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp HO
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,827
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Would you PLEASE tell me where exactly I said that my RIB was nose light???
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maybe u mearly implied it by asking how to put more weight upfront in ur boat??
http://boatmad.com/forum/showthread....light=bow+tank
and maybe again??
http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...ighlight=light
Like said above if all ribs are stern heavy or effectively nose light then yours must be! Iimho Surely the only difference between a rib and similar hulled hard boat could possibly be windage?? c of g should be setup on any well rigged boat hard or soft.... Unless the tubes are dragging in the water i suppose!!
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23 January 2007, 22:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Christchurch
Boat name: no worries
Make: XS
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140 hp Suzuki
Join Date: Oct 2005
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pro sport
codders would love to agree with your comments on your pro sport rib, but after waiting 6 months and 5 failed delivery dates (without CE plate), i had to take my engine and run to another rib manufacture.
I'm not saying anything bad about the boats, and i have heard very good things about the hull, just my dealing with then were not the best.
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23 January 2007, 22:22
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Originally Posted by ocean sports
codders would love to agree with your comments on your pro sport rib, but after waiting 6 months and 5 failed delivery dates (without CE plate), i had to take my engine and run to another rib manufacture.
I'm not saying anything bad about the boats, and i have heard very good things about the hull, just my dealing with then were not the best.
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Neither were mine - the bloke in Guernsey is nothing but scum!!!
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23 January 2007, 23:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
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It's unbelievable how these goons think they'll get away with these business practices indefinitely.It might have been possible to run a business like that 20 years ago but there's far too much information freely available to do it now.
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24 January 2007, 22:19
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#48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Christchurch
Boat name: no worries
Make: XS
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140 hp Suzuki
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 17
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pro sport
I agree that forums like this go along way to keeping buyers more in the no about companies would are less than genuine.
As it happen I actually order my boat my pro sport uk, as all the moulds, name and web site where sold. unfortunately the new owner never got any of the CE plating gear, I spoke to him recently with regards to some paper work for the engine and he still hasn't received the CE plate from Guernsey for the boat, that was meant to have been delivered in august 06!
better off out of it me thinks.
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26 January 2007, 16:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: llyn raider
Make: xs
Length: 7m +
Engine: 1 200hp merc
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 211
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was the 7.5m pro sport you were in the llyn peninsula rib jono?
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28 January 2007, 13:02
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
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I've been skiing and will be back later tonight, but I would just like to say that if anyone wants to try a RIB that isn't "too light in the bow ......... ALL RIBs are the same - mine is probably better than most as I only have 1 engine and I specified the console be moved forward slightly to make the balance better." I would be delighted to prove that not all RIBs are the same - even with a Verado 250 on the back!
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Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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28 January 2007, 13:43
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
I would be delighted to prove that not all RIBs are the same -
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not many are as well crafted as yours, that's for sure!
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28 January 2007, 14:45
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#52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
not many are as well crafted as yours, that's for sure!
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Thank you for the compliment Stu - I was actually talking about the balance, but Kitten does pride himself on putting a boat together as if his life depended on it ........... and quite rightly too!
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Cookee
Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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28 January 2007, 23:07
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#53
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
MMSI: 235040525
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
Must admit being a RIBCRAFT owner I have seen some changes on the boat layout recently. IBWETs boat and another New one in NI (Can't remember the guys name) all have the console a little bit more forward than mine. Could it be that RIBCRAFT has started to notice this charateristic.
I sometimes wish my console was a little farther forward but until I've been on one of the newer boats I don't know how much difference this actually makes. It might be as codders say all RIBs are a bit flighty at the front and no end of shoving things forward is going to make much of a difference to how it reacts when it hits waves at relatively high speed.
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Nick,
I have noticed the slightly further forward consol on mine, but I thought it was made that way to balance the weight of the engine I picked? one negative is that you can't easily walk round the consol to the front because the gap between the tube and consol is just to small to get my brothel creeper through, so have to either walk on the tube or squeeze the foot through. I little off target in this thread,just thought I'd mention it.
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29 January 2007, 14:36
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,931
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Iain,
Copied that. Seems like their are pros and cons in everything.
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