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17 July 2012, 01:29
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
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RYA advice on knifes
http://www.rya.org.uk/sitecollection...G%20KNIVES.pdf
but I know some of you think membership to RYA is pointless so ignore above !
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17 July 2012, 03:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Zummerset
Boat name: irven arlyss
Make: Humber Oceanpro
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Engine: evinrude 135hp
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Originally Posted by SPR
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I rely on BASC, and is very similar advice. A car on a highway is a public place, and just having a knife in the car is not a defence. You need "good reason"
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17 July 2012, 07:55
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Member
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Make: Avon Searider
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Originally Posted by SPR
IIRC all lock knifes and fixed knifes in uk regardless of size is illegal to carry in Uk in public place...
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What is the saying about a little knowledge?
You are completely wrong and miss guiding people, you CAN carry a lock knife with good reason, end of story. Seems to be a few barrack room
Lawyers on here talking nonsense with no comprehension of the law in the UK
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17 July 2012, 08:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Zummerset
Boat name: irven arlyss
Make: Humber Oceanpro
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Engine: evinrude 135hp
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Originally Posted by SR4
What is the saying about a little knowledge?
You are completely wrong and miss guiding people, you CAN carry a lock knife with good reason, end of story. Seems to be a few barrack room
Lawyers on here talking nonsense with no comprehension of the law in the UK
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Can you not read???? the 2 previous posts clearly states that you need "good reason"
Can I suggest you read the posts carefully before you start making assumptions on others knowledge.
As for your earlier post about leaving a knife in a car, that is NOT good reason.
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17 July 2012, 08:06
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My earlier post about leaving the knife locked securely in your car if you went into a shopping mall / centre was exactly for that reason, you may have had good reason to have it in a public place transporting it direct from your boat to home, but once you deviated and took it for a wander around the shops when it could be left in the car, good reason went out of the window. So common sense helps as well because at the end of the day you will have to firstly convince a police officer you had good reason and if that fails and you are charged , then you will have the court you had good reason.
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17 July 2012, 08:08
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Originally Posted by tonto
Can you not read???? the 2 previous posts clearly states that you need "good reason"
Can I suggest you read the posts carefully before you start making assumptions on others knowledge.
As for your earlier post about leaving a knife in a car, that is NOT good reason.
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I answered SPR not you, and may I suggest you don't talk nonsense as well, leaving a knife securely in your car while say filling with fuel on your way home say from diving or your boat IS good reason, please don't try and teach me the law, you will lose
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17 July 2012, 08:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Zummerset
Boat name: irven arlyss
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Length: 6m +
Engine: evinrude 135hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SR4
I answered SPR not you, and may I suggest you don't talk nonsense as well, leaving a knife securely in your car while say filling with fuel on your way home IS good reason, please don't try and teach me the law, you will lose
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Yes, You need a good reason, and if you need to fill a car on your way home, it is good reason, along with having to take a bathroom break, food break etc etc.
You cannot just leave it in the car indefinately. Your earlier post mentioned leaving a knife in a car while you "decide to wander around a mall" not a convincing reason in my mind, but hey ho, as you are a law expert, i stand to be corrected.
So I guess you a a solicitor/or barrister then and have full and complete knowledge of the law?
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17 July 2012, 08:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50hp
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Yes
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17 July 2012, 08:57
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Town: hampshire
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good - we know where to come when we need you to get us out of jail - for free! The problem with the law is it's as clear as mud. The interpretation of it by the police doesn't always stand scrutiny until it gets to court and i for one don't rate my chances trying to explain it to a policeman having a bad day. Having a ''good'' reason for carrying a knife depends on what you call 'reasonable'. Depending on the police on the day, you may have to go all the way to court to get it clarified. This may be extreme, but because i have to pay for my lawyers/barristers, i think being cautious about what i carry is prudent if i want to protect my bank balance! Unfortunately we live in a nanny state which keeps bringing out stupid laws that rely on 'reasonable' people interpreting it to protect us from idiots. Time to move.
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17 July 2012, 18:05
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SPR
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I'd be a bit more interested if they chucked in a Gerber Safety Knife with the 40 Kwid membership package
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18 July 2012, 12:35
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Siochair
My concern with the o.p.s knife would the sharp pointy bit being used around tubes. I'm a bit on the clumsy side so tend to only use knives with a rounded end just in case.
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I have seen a genius ex MoD knifw with a curved blade - end was totally rounded and blunt, the sharp edge being cut into the smaller radius. The radius was much smaller than the diameter of (I assume a Searider or Workboat's) toobs, base don it being an MoD thing so it was physically impiossible (apart from at the extreme tip of the cone) to be able to mate the sharp bit with the toob surface.
But as it was about the size of a bread knife I suspect would also fall into a few "illegal" categories...
Curry Lockspike for me.
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18 July 2012, 13:34
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Member
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Make: Avon Searider
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18 July 2012, 13:47
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
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What a tool!
Do they come in other colours?
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18 July 2012, 13:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: The boat
Make: WL
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2T outboard
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SR4
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You could do with an orange kevlar lanyard attached to one of these WaterBuoy Waterboy - Floating Keyring New Style Packet (sent recorded delivery) | eBay
Supports up to 1kg !
Thanks for all the info on the Knife laws, Ive got one in my pocket now that I am taking home from work tonight following repairs
if it wasnt for people like you the filth would have us all banged up under the misapprehension that they are controlling a police state !
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18 July 2012, 13:49
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Member
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Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
What a tool!
Do they come in other colours?
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Try google
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18 July 2012, 13:52
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Member
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Make: Avon Searider
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peteR75
You could do with an orange kevlar lanyard attached to one of these WaterBuoy Waterboy - Floating Keyring New Style Packet (sent recorded delivery) | eBay
Supports up to 1kg !
Thanks for all the info on the Knife laws, Ive got one in my pocket now that I am taking home from work tonight following repairs
if it wasnt for people like you the filth would have us all banged up under the misapprehension that they are controlling a police state !
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What like these you mean?
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18 July 2012, 14:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: The boat
Make: WL
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2T outboard
Join Date: Jun 2012
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sort of, the same but mine were orange , not that it makes any difference
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18 July 2012, 14:24
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#38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: The boat
Make: WL
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2T outboard
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Have you seen these , could be useful if you break down and find yourself stranded on a remote beach or Goodwin sands etc .
Pre made 550 paracord survival bracelet with whistle UK | eBay
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18 July 2012, 14:27
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#39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury 50hp
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peteR75
sort of, the same but mine were orange , not that it makes any difference
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Where did you get the orange ones from, do you fancy a swap?
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18 July 2012, 15:52
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#40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: The boat
Make: WL
Length: 3m +
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delted
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