help please - cabin rib 'design requirements'

paul tilley · 30 January 2014, 13:15

as part of my university degree I am trying to design a practical cabin for a rib 7mtr to 9mtr long . one of the requirements is to get opinions from rib users as to what facilities , equipment and degree of weather protection would be required . your comments would be gratefuly accepted . Thanks Michael Tilley

Trimix · 30 January 2014, 13:32

Before buying my RIB (without a cabin) I looked at a few with cabins and felt the ability to move from the back to the front of the boat was sometimes overlooked in some designs.

Some allowed you to climb round the cabin, but required standing on the tubes, others had a hatch in the cabin.

These were different approaches, but the affect the usability of the boat space.

Other issues that I considered were visibility, ventilation and noise supression.

C2 RIBS · 30 January 2014, 14:35

Paul, I would look for access to the bow area for morroing, anchor deployment as it can be an issue on some
If going for a cabin option it would have to be a full cabin, not just a canopy with rear open
After that space inside to be optimized and then it depends on what the craft is to be used for, commerical or leisure

Starovich · 30 January 2014, 14:47

I would ask the question "what purpose is the boat for".

The answer to that would change the build, for example an offshore rescue boat would likely need full immersion and self righting capabilities, where as a weekend cruiser may need more luxurious accommodation and creature comforts.

paul tilley · 30 January 2014, 15:14

practical general purpose cabin rib not rescue boat

PeterM · 30 January 2014, 15:14

Intertesting - several companies have gone down the 'cabin' route with differing approaches .

Arctic Blue - big enclosed cabon with heads etc that can be walked on.

Shearwater - cuddy cabin ( copied by Ribcraft on thier 'offshore' boat ) that allowed limited walk around one side

Protector - walk through

Redbay - fully enclosed / partial enclosed

Parker - much like redbay

Others have a 'toilet only' type cabin - Cobra I think for one.

On a RIB the great plus is thebing 'intouch' with the water - depending on use fully enclosed may help .

For me the ability to sleep & cook ( something some how) is a plus , toilet is a nice to have .....

Usable covered sapce in the rain is a nice to have.....

Loads of pics out there .....let us know

Poly · 30 January 2014, 16:13

1. I've renamed your thread so it may get more 'passing interest'.

2. The essential requirement for a privately owned boat, is a diesel cabin heater so that the boat qualifies for reduced fuel excise rates.

biffer · 30 January 2014, 17:17

A cabin rib is very handy bit of kit, if you're doing longer cruises ideal, a bit of an extravagance for trips up the Solent, I only build custom one off stuff now days and I build to a standard not a price, my boats won't be cheap but they will be individual

Andre · 31 January 2014, 08:39

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Originally Posted by PeterM

Intertesting - several companies have gone down the 'cabin' route with differing approaches .

Parker - much like redbay

Nothing like the Redbay

willk · 31 January 2014, 08:55

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Originally Posted by Andre

Nothing like the Redbay

For once we agree Andre!

PeterM · 31 January 2014, 09:18

Sorry Andre/Will - to explain my thinking - with the open area at the back and wheel house/cabin mid/to the front of the deck - type arrangement ....

Parker of course do the scorpion sting like cabin rib and the big big orange one I've seen pictures of ...

First thougth was just of the two pics attached ...

willk · 31 January 2014, 09:23

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Originally Posted by PeterM

Sorry Andre/Will - to explain my thinking - with the open area at the back and wheel house/cabin mid/to the front of the deck - type arrangement ....:

On the face of it, you could reasonably compare those photos...

I think we have better scenery though

biffer · 31 January 2014, 09:25

There are only so many thing you can do with a boat before they look like someone else's, they're sharp at the front and blunt at the back.

whisper · 31 January 2014, 09:28

I would like to see a smallish rib (outboard) with a full width front cabin to sleep two, two single jockey seats and a rear bench seat that folds out into a bed. With the use of a tent/tarp that would join from the cabin to the A frame to make it an all enclosed four birth.

If you could make the single jockeys so the back rests can be turned around and have a table in the middle of the seating for meals or evening chats either under the stars or undercover with the tarp on.

A second battery that would run a cool box and lighting that wouldn't run the main battery down.

One of those gas powered stainless steel BBQ's that hang over the side, maybe near the helm position.

Toilet? I don't really like them but a sea toilet option would be a good idea, at least then you could use the rib anchored in a bay for the night.

A diesel heater (as poly said) would be good too.

There you go, nailed it

Pikey Dave · 31 January 2014, 09:33

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Originally Posted by biffer

There are only so many thing you can do with a boat before they look like sh1te, they're sharp at the front and blunt at the back.

I know what you mean

biffer · 31 January 2014, 09:35

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Originally Posted by whisper

I would like to see a smallish rib (outboard) with a full width front cabin to sleep two, two single jockey seats and a rear bench seat that folds out into a bed. With the use of a tent/tarp that would join from the cabin to the A frame to make it an all enclosed four birth. If you could make the single jockeys so the back rests can be turned around and have a table in the middle of the seating for meals or evening chats either under the stars or undercover with the tarp on. A second battery that would run a cool box that wouldn't run the main battery down. One of those gas powered stainless steel BBQ's that hang over the side, maybe near the helm position. Toilet? I don't really like them but a sea toilet option would be a good idea, at least then you could use the rib anchored in a bay for the night. A diesel heater (as poly said) would be good too. There you go, nailed it

You don't want much do you, only dr who could achieve that, what about Neil's boat, I know it's work in progress but he wants the rear seats out and a bench put in this year, that only 7.2m, I know you want it smaller

paul tilley · 31 January 2014, 09:37

thanks for the replies so far , whispers response is the ideal type of reply , really a wish list for a practical general purpose reasonably priced cabin rib . I am sure my son would like to get more of your opinions .
thanks paul

PeterM · 31 January 2014, 09:37

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Originally Posted by willk

On the face of it, you could reasonably compare those photos...

I think we have better scenery though

I've never had a go in a Redbay( open to offers ...I'm sure there are flights from Southampton...)

Of course theres a green tubed one I hear may be winging its way to the solent soon

The thought of chatting to whisper under the stars ( or a tarp! ) - just us at anchor miles from anyone - makes me feel jittery.......his response is based on hours of day dreaming while the rest of work ( ish)

AJ. · 31 January 2014, 09:40

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Originally Posted by whisper

I would like to see a smallish rib (outboard) with a full width front cabin to sleep two, two single jockey seats and a rear bench seat that folds out into a bed. With the use of a tent/tarp that would join from the cabin to the A frame to make it an all enclosed four birth. If you could make the single jockeys so the back rests can be turned around and have a table in the middle of the seating for meals or evening chats either under the stars or undercover with the tarp on. A second battery that would run a cool box and lighting that wouldn't run the main battery down. One of those gas powered stainless steel BBQ's that hang over the side, maybe near the helm position. Toilet? I don't really like them but a sea toilet option would be a good idea, at least then you could use the rib anchored in a bay for the night. A diesel heater (as poly said) would be good too. There you go, nailed it

You forgot to mention what colour you would pick for the upholstery ;-)

Pikey Dave · 31 January 2014, 09:48

I'd like a half cuddy/cabin that gave you an open rear deck space & good shelter for the helm, a couple of Ullmans & a for'ard sleeping 2 berth cabin in the bow (with heater) Maybe a folding door on the rear of the cuddy that could be fixed open in good weather so as to keep you in touch with the elements as it were. Not too bothered about a loo, that's what buckets & the sea are for. Somewhere to make a brew would be a nice to have.